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  • 枫下拾英 / 心灵感悟 / ZT 为住宿而进行的对话 (Sorry, +8
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛it's quite long, hope you could be patient to read it)

      在一些日本的禅院中,有一个旧的传统:那就是一个流浪的和尚与一个当地的和尚要辩论有关佛教的问题,如果他赢了,那么他就能住下过夜,如果输了,他就不得不继续流浪。

      在日本的北方,有兄弟俩掌管着这样的一座寺院。哥哥非常有学问,而弟弟比较笨,并且只有一只眼睛。

      一天晚上,一个流浪的和尚来请求住宿,哥哥学习了很久,感到非常累,所以他吩咐他的弟弟去辩论,哥哥说:「要在沉默中进行对话。」

      过了一小会儿,那个流浪者来见哥哥,并且说:「你弟弟真是个厉害的家伙,他非常机智地赢了这场辩论,所以我要走了,晚安。」

      「在你走之前,」哥哥说,「请告诉我这场对话。」

      「好,」流浪者说,「首先我伸出一个手指代表佛陀,接着,你的弟弟伸出两个手指,表示佛陀和他的教导;为此我伸出三个手指,代表佛陀、他的教导和他的门徒,接着,你聪明的弟弟在我面前挥动着他紧握的拳头,表示那三个都是来自一个整体的领悟。 」随后,流浪者走了。

      过了一会儿,弟弟带着一付痛苦的样子跑进来。

      「我知道你赢了那场辩论。」哥哥说。

      「没什么赢的,」弟弟说,「那个流浪者是个非常粗鲁无礼的人。」

      「噢?」哥哥说,「告诉我那场辩论的主题。」

      「嗨,」弟弟说, 「当他看见我时,他伸出一个手指头侮辱我只有一只眼睛,但因为他是一个新来的人,我想还是礼貌些,所以我伸出两个手指,祝贺他有两只眼睛。这时,这个无礼的坏蛋伸出了三个手指,表示在我们中间只有三只眼睛,所以我气疯了,威胁地用拳头打了他的鼻子——所以他走了。」

      哥哥笑了。

      所有的辩论都是没有用的和愚蠢的。辩论原本是很傻的,因为没有人能够通过讨论、通过辩论达到真理,你或许可以得到一个晚上的住宿,但是仅此而已。

      传统是美丽的,好几个世纪以来,在日本的任何禅院,如果你请求在某个禅院住宿,你必须辩论,如果你赢得辩论,那么当晚就能住下——这正是一种象征——但只是为了一个晚上,到了早上你就不得不离开。这种通过辩论、逻辑、推理的表述,你从来不可能达到目的,只能得到一个晚上的住宿。你不要自我欺骗,所谓晚上的住宿就是目的,你不得不流浪,你不得不在早上再次开步。

      但是很多人总是自我欺骗,他们以为无论如何通过逻辑就能达到目的。晚上的住宿已经变成了终极目的,他们不再离开,很多个早晨已经过去。逻辑能够得出假定的结论,但是从来没有达到真理,逻辑能够引导某些事接近真理,但是从来没有达到真理。

      要记住,接近真理的东西也是一种谎言,因为它意味着什么呢?要么是真的,要么不是真的,没有处在两者之间的。要么是真的,要么不是真的,你不可能说这是半个真理,没有事情会像那样——就像不可能有半个圆一样,因为那个 「圆」意味着整体,半个圆并不存在。如果它是半个,那么它就不是圆。

      不存在半个真理,真理是整体的,你不可能零碎地把握它,你不可能部分地把握它:近似真理是一种欺骗,但是逻辑只能引向这种欺骗。你或许在晚上有了住宿,只是睡觉、放松,但并不能使这住所变成你的家,到了早上你不得不再次流浪,行程并不能在那里结束,每天早上它又将一次又一次地开始。通过逻辑,通过推理而放松,但是这不可能保持住,不可能变成静止的——一直要记住,你必须流浪。

      传统是优美的,所以对传统和它的意义首先要了解:它是象征。其次:所有的讨论都是愚蠢的,因为,通过讨论的气氛,你从来不可能了解别人,无论他说什么都是误解。头脑专注于获胜、征服,不可能去了解,这是不可能的,因为了解需要一个没有暴力的头脑,当你正注重着怎样获胜时,你是暴力的。

      辩论是一种暴力,你能通过辩论来扼杀,你不可能通过辩论去再生,你不可能通过辩论给予生命,你能通过辩论来谋杀,真理能通过辩论被谋杀掉,但是它们无法复活。这是暴力,这种姿态就是暴力。你并不是真正地在寻求真理,你是在寻求胜利。当胜利是目的时,真理将会牺牲;当真理是目的时,你也可能牺牲胜利。

      而真理应该是目的,不是胜利,因为当胜利是目的时,你是一个政客,不是一个有宗教性的人,你是好攻击的,你正在努力设法胜过别人,你正在尽力设法控制别人,成为统治者,而真理从来不可能是一种独裁,它从来不可能摧毁别人。

      真理从不可能意味着你胜过别人就是一种胜利:真理带着谦虚、谦恭,它不是一种自我的幻觉——但所有的辩论都是自我的幻觉,所以辩论从来不可能引导到真实,它总是引导到不真实的、非真理的,因为追求胜利本来就是一种愚蠢的现象,是真理获胜,不是 「你」,不是「我」。在辩论中或者你赢,或者我赢,真理从来不会赢。

      真正的寻道者将会让真理赢。辩论者正是要求胜利应该属于我,它不应该属于别人。在真理中并没有别人,在真理中,我们相遇并成为一体,所以谁能是赢家,谁能是输家呢?在真理中,没有人被击败;在真理中,真理获胜而我们都失败了。但是在辩论中,我是我,你是你,事实上,就没有桥了。

      当你反对别人时,你怎样能理解他呢?理解是不可能的,理解需要同情,理解需要参与,理解意味着全然地倾听别人,只有那时理解才会开花。但是如果你在讨论中,在辩论、在争论、在推理,你并不是在倾听别人,你只是假装你在听,在深处,你正在作着准备,在深处,你已经走到了下一步:当别人停下时,你就要说什么,你已在准备着怎样驳斥他,你已经不去倾听他,而是正试图怎样驳斥他!

      事实上,在讨论中,在辩论中,真理并不重要,所以辩论从来不是一种交流,不可能通过辩论来共享,你能争论,你越争论……你就越一边倒,你越争论,间隙也就越大,它变成了一个深渊,那不可能是相聚之地。那就是为什么哲学家们从来不会聚合,有学问的人从来不会聚合:他们是伟大的辩论者,有一个深渊存在着,他们不可能与别人聚合,不可能。

      唯有爱人能够相聚,但爱人不会辩论,他们能够交流。那就是为什么在东方如此强调雪然达(Shraddha)——信任、信心。如果你与你的师傅争论,间隙较大,那最好是离开,让这个师傅作为晚上的住宿,只要走开。和他在一起并不会有任何出路,而那个间隙将会扩大。如果你是好辩论的,那个间隙也不可能变成一座桥,不可能。信任意味着同情,信任意味着你不在争论,你来是为了倾听,不是为了争论,你已经去了解,不去辩论,你并不要获胜,反而,你准备失败。

      一个真正的门徒总是在寻求被师傅击败,当他完全被摧毁、完全被击败时,那是门徒生命中最伟大的时刻,并非是师傅要赢,而他是准备被打败,门徒准备被打败。而当门徒不再在那儿时,完全被打败时,消失时,只有那时间隙才是一座桥,深渊便消失,而师傅便能穿透你。

      所以,这便发生了:耶稣漫游了所有他的国家,但所有他能聚集的门徒只是些单纯的人,没有一个是受过教育的,没有一个学者。并非那儿没有学者,在那时,那儿有伟大的学者,犹太人正是处在他们荣耀的顶峰,那便是为什么他们能产生如此一个像太阳一般的耶稣。耶稣是顶峰,耶稣能产生,表示着犹太人触及了他们的顶点,他们再也没有到达这样的顶点。那儿有伟大的学者,安排了伟大的辩论。犹太人的会堂是学习的场所,一所真正的大学,人们从国内各个地方前来讨论、来辩论、来争论、来寻找;但这是一场辩论,没有一个学者跟随耶稣。

      事实上,所有学者都一致赞同这个人应该被消灭,所有的学者、有学问的人都准备杀死这个人!为什么?因为这个人反对辩论,他正在抽掉他们的基础,整个的结构就将垮掉,这个人正在主张反对理性,他正是在讲信任,他在讲爱,他在讲怎样在两颗心之间创造一座桥。

      辩论是两个头脑,两个脑袋之间的;爱、交流、信任是两颗心之间的,他开启了一条新的航程——友情的、门徒之情的、成长的;他是在完全不同的层面上思想,品质是不同的,他是在说: 「将你的经典扔一边去!不需要你的圣经,因为它们只是些文字。」学者,有学问的人对此无法忍受,耶稣被钉在十字架上处死。

      他只能找到单纯的人:渔夫、伐木工人、鞋匠——单纯的人,他的所有的门徒,除了犹大,都没有受过教育,只有犹大真正是有文化的优雅绅士,而他却为了三十卢比出卖了耶稣,这个有文化的、优雅的犹大背叛了。而耶稣知道这事,如果有人出卖他,这人就是犹大。为什么?因为心中只能被脑袋出卖,爱也只有被逻辑背叛,再也没别的能出卖。

      所以在进入这故事之前,要记住第二件事:通过逻辑、通过脑袋、好争论,你会变得与其它人格格不入、陌生,其中的那座桥消失了。当你不能理解别人时,当你甚至不能够倾听他时,当你的头脑不断地在里面争论着,斗争着,你怎样能达到真理?你是爆力的和进攻性的,这种进攻将是无益的。

      所有的争论都是徒劳的,它们从不会有任何出路,即使你感到那个结论已经得出,那结论也是勉强的。它并不是通过讨论得出的。你能使别人哑口无言,但别人从不因此而信服:从不!如果你使用一些逻辑的计谋,你能使别人哑口无言,他或许无法回答你,你知道的比他知道的多,你知道的计谋比他知道的多,你能通过语言和推理将他逼到角落里,而他却无法回答。但这并不是说服他的方法,他在内心深处知道: 「将来有一天,我会找到更多的计谋,使你回到你原来的位置。现在我无法回答,好,我接受失败。」他被打败了,但这并不是赢。

      这是两件不同的事:当你赢得一颗心时,他并没有被打败——他是高兴的,他是在你的胜利中感受胜利,他在共享,这不是你的胜利——是真理获胜,而你们俩都会庆祝。但是当你击败一个人,他一直没有赢过,他继续是敌人,在内心深处他在继续等待着他能维护自己的那一刻。

      辩论不会变成一种确信,如果不能达到确信,那结论又在哪儿呢?结论是勉强的,它总是早熟的,它就像流产,它不是自然出生,你已经在强迫——一个死了的孩子出生或者一个残废的孩子出生,整个生命中他将继续是残废的、虚弱的和死的。

      苏格拉底常常说:「我是一个助产士,我帮助人自然出生。」一位大师就是一名助产士,他不是去强迫,因为强迫的出生不可能是真正的出生,它更像死亡而很少像生命。

      所以一个师傅从不好争论,如果他有时表现出好争论的,那他只是在与你做着游戏——玩着某种推理的游戏,不要成为一个受骗者,他正在用一种理由在与你玩。他之所以好争论,只是要发现你的好争论性是否会被引发。如果被引发出来了,那你已经错过。如果你能倾听他的争论,而没有变得好争论,他不会再与你玩这种游戏。他必须看着内在的你,你或许会有意识地听,无意识地好争论,那么他必须将你的无意识引发出来,好让你能对此变得觉知。

      有时看起来一位师傅是好进攻的,他要坚决打败你,但他从来不是要坚决打败你——只是要打败你的自我,不是你;只是要摧毁你的自我,不是你。要记住:自我是毒素,它正在摧毁你;一旦毒素被摧毁,你将会首次获得自由和生命活力,你将第一次感到阳光明媚。他摧毁着疾病,不是你。

      
      寺院需要两种类型的人。

      有这样一座寺院……由兄弟俩掌管,哥哥非常有学问,而弟弟比较笨,而且只有一只眼睛。

      在这个故事中,一只眼睛象征的是什么呢?一个愚笨的人总是集中的:他从来不犹豫,他总是肯定的;而一个有学问的人总是两面的:他犹豫,他不断地将自己一分为二,他总是在内部争论,在内部不断地对话,他知道这两面。

      一个有学问的人是两重性的——两只眼睛;一个愚蠢的人是一只眼睛的——他总是肯定的,他没有争论,他不是分裂的。那就是为什么,如果你去看一下一个愚蠢的人,他看上去比一个有学问的人更像一个圣人;如果你去看一下圣人,他有某些方面与他很相似——愚蠢的,傻傻的。品质是不同的,但某些方面是同样的,标签不一样。傻瓜只是在第一个阶梯,而圣人是在最后的阶梯,但两者都是在顶端。傻瓜不知道,那就是为什么他是单纯的,一只眼睛的;圣人知道,那也就是为什么他是单纯的,他也是一只眼睛,他称它为第三眼。两只眼睛已经消失变成了第三只眼睛,他也是一只眼睛——一体!他是一个整体,而傻瓜也是一个整体,但是有什么区别呢?

      无知也有它自身的天真,就像智慧有它自身的天真一样。有学问的人只是处在中间,这就是有学问的人的分裂点:他是无知的而以为他是智慧的,他既不在这个层面上也不在那个层面上,他悬在两者中间,那就是为什么他始终处于紧张状态。一个无知的人是放松的,一个智慧的人是放松的,无知的人还没有开始他的旅程,他还在家里;智慧的人已经到达终点,他也是在家里。有学问的人是在两者之间,要在某个寺院里寻找住宿——甚至只是为了一个晚上也好——他正在流浪。

      佛教的和尚们曾经是流浪者,而佛陀曾经说:「做一个流浪者除非你到达了,做一个流浪者!不仅是内在,而且外在也是,做一个流浪者——除非你已经到达,不要在到达前停步! 」当你已经到达时,当你已经成为一个悉达(Siddha),一个佛陀时,那时你才可以坐下。

      无知和智能有一个品质是相类似的:那就是天真,都不是狡猾的。所以有时它就会发生,一个具有神性的人被当作傻瓜,一个傻瓜——神的傻瓜。圣弗朗西斯(St.Francis)被当作是神的傻瓜,他正是!但是做一个神的傻瓜可能是最伟大的智慧,因为自我失落了。你没有说你知道,所以你是一个傻瓜,因为你不会自称有知识,如果你不说,谁会接受你是一个知者?甚至你声称,也没有人接受。你必须用锤子敲别人的脑袋,你必须去争论使他们为此沉默!当他们无法说什么时,那时,出于嫉妒之心,他们接受 「也许」,也许你是。但是他们总是会说:「也许」,他们会一直保持那种可能性,直到某一天他们能否认它。
           
      在这个寺院中,有一个是无知的——单纯的、只有一只眼睛、确信无疑的人;一个是有学问的人,有学问的人总是感觉到很累,因为他为空无工作得如此辛苦,无事也是如此忙忙碌碌,他总是很累。你不可能找到一个有学问的人是不累的。

      ……所以,他吩咐他的弟弟去辩论。「要在沉默中进行对话。」哥哥说——因为他知道,这个弟弟是愚蠢的,所以,如果你是愚蠢的,那么沉默是金;如果你是圣人,那么沉默也是金。如果你知道,你会保持沉默;如果你不知道,最好也保持沉默。

      一个智慧的人是沉默的,因为他知道,并且他所知道的都无法被说出来。一个愚蠢的人不得不沉默,因为无论他说什么都会被人抓到辫子。一个傻瓜能够骗人,如果他保持沉默,但如果他开口,他便不能骗人,因为无论他说什么都会带着他的愚蠢。这个有学问的哥哥非常知道这个弟弟不是一个书生,是一个单纯的人,天真的,无知的,所以他说: 「要在沉默中进行对话。」

      过了一小会儿,那个流浪者来见哥哥,并且说:「你弟弟真是个厉害的家伙。」

      这个人一定也是一个有学问的人,而如果一个傻瓜保持沉默,他能打败一个有学问的人,如果你开口,就要被人抓辫子,因为那时你进入了有学问的人的世界,用文字,你无法赢。

      这个人也是一个有学问的人,一个读书人,要他保持沉默并以此辩论会非常困难。怎样辩论?如果不允许说话……只是用手势,整个事情变得沉默,你所有的聪明失去了,因为如果不允许你说话……那是你唯一的实力,所以如果一个有学问的人是保持沉默的,那么他也能被一个傻瓜击败,因为他的全部的实力失去了,这个实力属于文字上的。

      在沉默中,他是一个傻瓜——这就是意思所在。那就是为什么学者们从来不会沉默,他们总是喋喋不休。如果没有人在,他们就与他们自己喋喋不休,但是他们就是喋喋不休,他们无休止地说话,说话,再说话,在内在和外在,因为通过这种说话,他们的实力越来越强,他们变得越来越熟练。但是,如果他们一旦遭遣到沉默,突然,他们的所有的艺术便消失了,他们比一个愚蠢的人更愚蠢,甚至一个笨蛋也能打败他们。他们脱离了他们的职业环境,他们被搁在一边,他肯定是在一个非常困难的境地中。

      他说:「你弟弟真是个厉害的家伙,他非常机智地赢了这场辩论,所以我必须走了,晚安。」

      如果你遇到了一个有学问的人,那就保持沉默,对他做手势,你会打败他,因为他对手势一无所知,他对沉默也一无所知。事实上,对他来讲,不用语言文字是非常困难的,他会立即以为他已经被打败了——他必须离开,去找另外一个寺院,不至于太晚,并去找一个能用语言文字的、用头脑的家伙辩论。

      手势是活的。当你摆动你的手时,你的整个存在在摆动它;当你用眼睛看时,你的整个存在在倾注于它;当你走路时,你是整个人在走,你的腿不能独自走,但是你的头脑能独自不停地编织着,编织着,脑袋能自主的,身体的其它部分无法变得自主。所以,如果你想要研究一个人,不要听他说什么,而要看他怎样行动,他怎样走进房间,怎样坐的,怎样走的,怎样看的,看看他的姿势,它们会显示其真实面目。

      文字是欺骗者,我们所说的并不是在表露,而是在隐藏,所以保持沉默,看着一个人:他怎样站,他怎样坐,他怎样看,他正在摆出什么样的姿势。身体的语言比你脑袋的语言更真实。身体的语言是非常非常自然的,它正是来自本源,所以要通过它来骗人是非常困难的。你或许是说某件事情,而你的脸正在表明着别的事情。你或许在说: 「我是对的。」但是你的眼睛,你的神态,你站的姿势,在表示你知道你是错的。你或许通过语言在显示你很自信,但是你的整个身体却在发抖,显示出你不自信。

      你无法通过身体来骗人,身体比你的头脑更真实。被僧侣们发明出来的所有的宗教告诉你说:「反对你的身体,与头脑保持一致!」因为僧侣生活在头脑中,通过头脑来利用人,通过身体是不可能剥削人的,身体是真实的,好几个世纪的不真实的生活也不能摧毁身体的真实,身体保持着真实,它清楚地显示着你是谁。

      「他非常机智地赢了这场辩论,所以我必须走了,晚安。」

      「你走之前,」哥哥说,「请告诉我这场对话。」

      他一定非常奇怪,他这样笨的弟弟怎么会是聪明的?怎么回事?他是个地道的傻瓜——他怎样争论,他怎样辩论,他又怎样赢的呢?所以他要问。

      「在你走之前,请告诉我这场对话。」

      「好,」那个流浪者说,「首先我伸出一个手指代表佛陀。」

      ……因为一个有学问的人,即使在他做动作时,也将动作作为一种文字,因为他只知道一种语言,如果他在吻他的爱人时,在内心他也要说一个字「吻」,这真是愚蠢;你在吻,不需在内心重复 「吻」,但他会。你观察一下你自己:当你在做爱时,你会在内心说:「我正在做爱」——多么荒唐!没有人在问,也没有人要被告诉。

      为什么你要不断地重复呢?无论当你在做什么时,为什么你都要说它?因为不用语言,你不舒服,只有用语言,你才舒服;与神在一起你无法舒服,与语言的「神」在一起才会满意,那就是为什么有学问的人要去寺庙,要去清真寺,要去教堂,那儿同样他可以喋喋不休,他会与神说个不停——

      都是语言。

      克尔恺郭尔,赛伦﹒克尔恺郭尔曾经说到:「当我第一次进入教堂时,我会说,我总是说,抱怨,祈祷,但渐渐地感到很傻,我一直对他说,而我一直没有给予任何机会、任何时机让他对我说。最好就是去听,当你在神面前时,最好是听。 」所以他放弃了讲话,不久,他又放弃了所有的祈祷,他只是去教堂,静静地坐着,但在他的沉默中仍然还有语言在他的内部存在,他没有将它们用在外部,而内部它们仍在绕圈子。

      所以,不久,他不得不也将内部的语言扔掉——那时才可能只是听,于是你便会进入一个完全不同的层面——倾听的,被动的,接受的,你变成了一个子宫,那时你能接受到真理,那时你不是在说话,那时你不是在进攻,那时只有神在工作,而你正在让她工作。那时他变得全然的宁静,于是他不再去教堂了。

      有人问:「为什么?为什么你不再去教堂了?」

      他说: 「现在我已经明白教堂的意思了,它唯一的意思就是静默和倾听,这些能在任何地方做到,最好是到其它地方做,因为很多人都去那里,在教堂里说个不停,他们干扰了我。最好是在一棵树下,最好是在天空下。」

      在那里教堂是更大的、更自然的。如果你需要宁静,那么神到处都是;如果你需要讲话,那么就去寺庙。但是如果你需要宁静,为什么还要去什么地方?到处都是神,但是你无法宁静。你做事并在内心重复着,你感到饿了。你便说: 「我饿了。」感觉饿了还不够吗?——除非你说出来,否则你会不舒服,你已经上了语言瘾。

      这个人……他一定是一个有学问的人,的确是一个极有学问的人:

      「好,」他说:「首先我伸出一个手指代表佛陀,接着,你弟弟伸出两个手指表示佛陀和他的教导——达磨(Dhamma)。」

      一个没有语言就无法用姿势的人,他也只会用语言来注释别人的动作,现在来看看这连环是怎么回事呢?你注释你的语言的方法,同样也会用于注释别人的动作。

      他正在想:「这个手指,一个手指代表……」手指不代表任何人!手指充其量只是它自身,一个手指只是一个手指!为什么要使它成为代表?它不代表任何人,手指是那么美丽,为什么要代表什么呢?但是头脑总是喜欢二手货,只是手指还不够,它必须代表某个人。

      如果你看见一朵花,你无法直接地看见花,即刻它一定是种代表,所以你说:「你像我妻子的脸。」即使是月亮,你会说:「就像我爱人的脸。」多么荒唐!月亮就是月亮,而这个人,当他看到他爱人的脸,就会说: 「就像月亮」。月亮不足以代表它自身,爱人的脸也不足以表示它本身,而一切事物本身就足够了,没有人是代表其它任何人。

      每个人足以代表他自身,每个人都是原初的,独一无二的,没有人是摹拟的。当你说手指代表佛陀时,佛陀是原初的,手指就是摹拟的,不!这是佛陀不能允许的,我不能允许它!手指是如此美丽,不代表任何人,而如果你以为你的手指代表佛陀的话,那么别人的两个手指会代表佛陀和他的达磨——他的教导。

      因为你是在理解别人,你不倾听别人。你靠倾听你自己的头脑来理解别人,你注释着别人,当我说什么时,不要相信你听到的和我说的是一样的,当我说某事,你听到某事,但那是与我无关的,他是与你自己的思想过程相关联的。

      他的思想过程是:「这个手指代表佛陀。」然后别人正在说两个手指,而他得意忘形地不知道他的意思,如果你内心有语言的话,你不能够理解别人,因为那一切都与你的语言、与你的思想过程相关联,而这已经被上过色了。他以为他正在说两件事,不是一件:佛陀和他的达磨——他的教导,他的法则。

      「所以我伸出三个手指。」——看看与内部的连接。

      你一点也没有与别人交流,你是在与你自己交流!这就是疯狂的意思,疯狂意味着与别人不相干,只是趋向内心,将你的新的一刻与过去相连,新的经验与旧的经验相关,不断地注解上色。

      「所以我伸出三个手指,」因为如果他说:「佛陀、达磨,」我就说:「佛陀、达磨、僧伽(Sangha)——佛陀,他的教导和他的追随者。」

      这里的三是:这些是佛教徒的三个庇护所。当一个比丘想要被点化,成为比丘,他说:「Buddhamsharanamgachchd\hami——我去,我将佛陀作庇护,Dhammamsharanamgachchhami,我将教导作庇护,Sanghamsharanangachchd\hami,我将僧伽,佛陀的追随者作庇护。 」这些是三个庇护所,佛教的三块宝石。

      但这个人不是在看别人正在做什么——毫不相干!——

      所以他伸出三个手指……

      「所以我伸出三个手指代表佛陀,他的教导和他的追随者,于是你聪明的弟弟,在我面前挥动着他紧握的拳头,表示那所有的这些都来自一个整体的领悟。」

      随后流浪者走了。

      一会儿,弟弟进来,一付非常痛苦的样子。

      「我知道你赢了那场辩论。」哥哥说。

      「赢什么啊,」弟弟说,「那个流浪者是个粗鲁无礼的人!」

      「噢!」哥哥说,「告诉我辩论的主题。」

      「嗨,」弟弟说,「当他看到我时他就伸出一个手指来侮辱我只有一只眼睛。」

      你根据你自己来理解:你看一本书,你唯一所能理解的就是你已经知道的,你倾听时,你是里过去在注释,你的过去加了进去。只有一只眼睛的人总是觉知到他的缺陷,他一直带着缺陷,他正在到处寻找侮辱,没人为你担心,但如果你自卑,于是你就老是看见有人在侮辱你,你对此深信不疑,并且就会注释,别人或许在说: 「佛陀。」你却见到他在说你只有一只眼睛,没有人会在乎你的眼睛,但是我们根据我们的理解来注释。

      一个人去找贝兹德(Byazid),一个苏非神秘家,问他……他说: 「一年后再来,因为你现在有病,你的内在是骚动不安的,我无法讲述真理,因为你不会领悟它——你会误解它的。所以一年中尽量恢复健康、宁静、静心,然后再来。如果我感觉你能听时,我会告诉你,否则你就去找别人。」

      那人听完,回去了,在一年中努力地恢复了健康、宁静、平和——但是再也没有返回。

      所以贝兹德问:「那个寻求者怎么了?」

      有人说:「我们问过他,'为什么你不再来了?'他说:'现在我不需要来,因为我能在我所在的地方,领悟贝兹德能说什么。'」

      这是个悖论:当你没有准备好,你询问,但是没什么能告诉你;当你准备好了,你也不询问了,但只有那时才能告诉你。

      如果你只有一只眼睛,那么你总是在找寻侮辱,而如果你在找寻侮辱,你总能找到——这就是问题。如果你在找寻什么的话,这就是不幸:你会找到的。不是有什么人在侮辱你,是你会找到的,所以不要去找这样的事,否则你到处都会找到的。

      有人会笑——不是在笑你,因为你是谁呢?为什么你要以为你自己是世界的中心呢?这是自我主义的倾向。你走在大街上,有人在笑,而你以为他们在笑你,为什么笑你呢?你是谁?为什么你要将自己看作是整个世界的中心?有人在笑——在笑你;有人侮辱——在侮辱你;有人生气——在对你生气。

      在我的整个生活中,我不曾遇到有一个人对我生气,有许多人生气,但没有人对我生气,因为我不是世界的中心,他们为什么要对我生气呢?他们生气——那是与他们自己的存在有关,与我无关。我曾经遇到有人对我使用暴力,但他们并不是对我,这个暴力是发自他们的过去,我不是这个暴力的根本原因,我或许是借口,但我不是原因。只是借口——如果我不在那儿,有人也会做同样的事,有人还会成为受害者,所以我在那儿只是一种巧合。

      当你的妻子对你发疯,你在那儿,这是一种巧合,逃开!不要想太多,她是在对你生气,她生气,你在场,仅此而已。她会对仆人,对孩子,对钢琴,对任何事生气!

      每个人都通过他自己的过去来生活,只有佛陀生活在现在,没有人生活在现在。

      这个人以为:「好,他正在表示我只有一只眼睛,他真粗鲁,他在侮辱我只有一只眼睛,但是因为他是一个新来的人,我想还是对他礼貌些。」

      但是那时你想你应该礼貌些,你是不礼貌的,你怎么会呢?——有一个念头进入:如果你认为别人是粗鲁的,那么你已经变得粗鲁——现在它并不是问题,因为,「别人是粗鲁的 」这个念头本身是由于你的粗鲁已经出现,通过你的粗鲁别人也显得粗鲁,你已经替别人上了色。别人正在用他的手指代表佛陀,他甚至还没有看到你的眼睛,他并不在乎,他只想要一个住处。

      一个佛陀——被解释成:「他正在表示我只有一只眼睛,他真粗鲁!」当你认为别人是粗鲁时,反观自身:你是粗鲁的,那就是为什么你解释成这样。

      但是为什么你是粗鲁的呢?因为粗鲁是保护自己缺陷的一种方法,那些粗鲁的人总是遭受自卑的折磨。如果一个人一点都没有自卑的负担,他就不会粗鲁,粗鲁是他的保护伞,通过粗鲁来保护他的缺陷。他说: 「我不允许你碰我的缺陷,我不允许你击中我。」

      他保护,但是保护(protection)成了投射(projection),他认为你是粗鲁的,然后他才能粗鲁,这是多么粗鲁的方式!首先,你必须证明别人是粗鲁的,而你的自我仍然在说: 「我要尽量礼貌些。」

      当你礼貌时,你的礼貌只是外面的而已,在内在,粗鲁已经进入,不一会儿,它就要爆发出来了。

      「但是我想因为他是一个新来的人,我要礼貌些,所以我伸出两个手指,祝贺他有两只眼睛。」

      这只是虚假的,如果你感觉到别人在侮辱你只有一只眼睛而别人有两只眼睛,你怎样会祝贺别人呢——你怎么会祝贺呢?你会深深地嫉妒,你怎么会祝贺呢?

      祝贺怎么会来自嫉妒呢?但是你的所有的祝贺都出自那样的形式,它是一种礼貌的形式,它是文化、礼仪,如果你被人打败了,你甚至还要向他祝贺他的胜利,多么虚伪!如果你是这样的人,你不会进入战斗,当你在战斗时,你是敌人,而你现在被打败了,你去向他祝贺,但是那儿有深深的嫉妒,你愤怒,你想杀死这个人,试试看——将来,你会清楚!

      但是社会需要礼仪,为什么社会需要礼仪呢?因为每个人都如此喜欢暴力,如果没有礼仪,我们会互相不停地斗个你死我活。社会制造了障碍,不允许你与别人一直斗争下去,否则生活将是不可能的。

      其实,你是在与人不停地相互斗个你死我活。你的礼仪、你的文化、文明的行为、礼貌,正隐藏着事实,这些不允许真正的文明产生。一件虚假的事——那就是为什么每十年需要一次大的战争,在其中,所有的礼仪,所有的礼貌,所有的道义都被扔掉了,你能毫无内疚地杀戮。于是杀人变成了游戏,你杀的越多,你就越了不起;你越粗野,你就越是伟大的战士。

      回到你的国家,你被当作英雄。帕达玛布仙(Padma-bhushan),马哈维恰克拉(Mahavirchakra),维多利亚十字勋章将会被授予你,你会得到奖章,为什么会得到这些奖章呢?变得野蛮,变成杀人犯,因为你已经是一个伟大的杀人犯,所以国家授予你这奖章,而我们称这些国家为文明,杀人犯被认同,杀人犯被赞赏……

      但是这是杀大批人的杀人犯。杀单个人的杀人犯——会坐牢,那是不允许的,只有当整个社会发疯时,那就是战争,一切都被搁在一边,你的真实的本性被准许了,那就是为什么当有了战争时,每个人都感到高兴,应该是正相反的——当有了战争时,没人应该感到高兴,但是每个人都感到高兴,因为现在你被准许成为动物,你总是想成为它,你的文化、礼仪、礼貌,都是将动物隐藏在背后的装饰方法。

      这个人说:「所以我伸出两个手指来祝贺他有两只眼睛,这时,这个无礼的坏蛋伸出了三个手指,表示我们之间只有三只眼睛。」

      无论你做什么,你的缺陷都会进入,别人在说,「佛陀的三颗宝石。」但是对你来讲,你的伤疤又出现了,你试图礼貌些,你试图不粗鲁,你甚至试图去祝贺,但是你就是你,你的想法继续着。

      现在他伸出三个手指,你的头脑再次加入,并说:「这个坏蛋!他正在说我们之间只有三只眼睛。」他再次表示你只有一只眼睛,这太过份了,够了!

      「所以我气疯了,威胁地用拳头打了他的鼻子——所以他走了。」

      正是从最开始他就疯了,甚至在他们遇到以前他就发疯了,因为你不可能制造出疯狂,如果它不是早已经存在。你能制造仅有的东西早已经在那儿了,你的创造不可能无中生有,它只是将不明显的状态变成明显状态。生气就在那儿,你不需要制造它,某个人变成了借口——它就出现了,你不是对他生气,他不是原因,你正带着生气——他变成了借口。疯狂是在里面的,如果你不是已经发疯的话。但是我们总是以为有人使我们生气,有人使我们忧郁,有人使我们这样,那样。

      没有人使你怎样,即使你一个人你也会发疯,你也会生气;即使整个世界消失了,你也会有悲伤的时候,也会有高兴的时候,也会有生气的时候,也会有宽恕别人的时候——

      尽管没有人。

      这是你内在的故事的展开,一个有所理解的人会领悟到:整个的事情是我的展开,你只是给了我机会、情景,但是整个的事情是我的展开。

      一颗种子落入土壤,发芽,一棵树开始成长,土地、空气、雨水、太阳,它们都只是给予机会。但是树正隐藏在种子里,你正带着你的展开的整棵树,其它每个人都成为机会,无论何时发生什么,不要向外看,要往内看,因为事情,当它发生时,是与你的过去相关联的,不是与当时的人相关。

      「我气疯了,威胁地用拳头打了他的鼻子——所以他走了。」

      哥哥笑了。

      哥哥能明白两种观点,他能明白这个有学问的流浪者从来都没有与这个人对过话,从来都没有跟这个人作过手势;他也能明白这个傻弟弟从来没有理解手势的意义。他们从来没有接触过——深渊就在那儿,没有桥。他们辩论,他们得出结论,一个人输,一个人赢,而他们从未相遇——哪怕一会儿。他笑了。

      这个笑便能开悟,这个笑能成为一个深刻的领悟,一种蜕变。如果这个笑不是对这个弟弟的愚蠢,或是那个流浪者的愚蠢,如果这个笑是对整个情景:头脑有怎样的功能,两个头脑是如何无法相遇,两个人的过去是如何无法相遇,两个头脑总是那样的分离——没有方式使它们相遇、相互融合……如果他是在笑整个情景,不是这个弟弟或有学问的流浪者——因为如果他是在笑这个弟弟或那个流浪者,那么这个笑无法变成开悟,他将仍然是老样子——但是如果他是在笑整个情景:头脑有怎样的功能,头脑怎样辩论,头脑怎样在内部进行自身运作,从不走出去,头脑怎样老是封闭,它从来不打开的,头脑怎样只是一个内在的梦,一个恶梦……

    如果他真正地领悟,这个笑将变成一种脱落,桶,整个桶掉下,水跑了出来——没有水,没有月亮。更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 此文所要表达的,应该也就是犬儒主义者和怀疑论者所要表达的意思。相同之处有很多,其实都没啥太大区别:犬儒主义者认为对错无所谓,怀疑论者认为根本就没有正确与错误之分 +2
      • I wish you could spend longer time time to read carefully and think about it, don't make a judgement so quickly. Thanks. +7
        • 无所谓 +1
          • 悟了
            • 越看越雾,最后啥都看不见了,就悟了 +5
    • 能写这么多字,看得我都眼花了
      • It's ZT, copy+paste. Thank you for having the patient to read it.
      • 是啊
        • 看来大家都雾了,恭喜
    • 这个转帖真的是太长了,不过这个转帖写的真是太好!很多,很多地方,寓意深远。 看完,我就想到了南隐禅师的一个故事,也贴上来,供参考。 +5
      从前,有一位学士认为自己对禅的领悟已经到了很高深的境地,就想找一位当世高人,验证一下自己的深度。有一位在南山修行的禅师,由于他参禅的造诣很高,善于借助日常的事物对求教者加以点化,因此他的名气也越来越大,信徒们都称他为“南隐”。这位学士听说之后,就前去拜访南隐,向南隐请教禅的含意。

      相互见礼之后,学士说明了自己的来意。南隐亲手拿起茶壶,很认真地向杯子里斟着,杯子里的茶已经满了,可是南隐还没有停手的意思。只看见茶水不断地从杯中溢出来,已经流到了桌案上。学士实在有些沉不住气了,就提醒南隐说:“老禅师,茶已经满了,流到了桌子上,请不要再倒了。”南隐像是刚刚醒悟似的,这才把茶壶放下,然后,他指着那斟得满满的杯子,对学士说:“你就像这只杯子一样,里面已经装满了你自己的观点、想法。而我要说的是属于我自己的想法、见解。正像那些淌到外面去的水一样,你不先把自己的杯子空出来,叫我如何对你说禅呢?”
      • 一语道破洗脑的精髓!无愧为大师! +4
        • 也谢谢你的意见,能使我更好的了解自己。新年快乐!
        • 还真是的。不过洗脑似的把东西放进别人的脑子里要在他们无意识的状态下。
      • You got it, thanks.
        • 我该谢谢你,这个帖子说的太棒了,超赞!
      • 好么,好为人师洗脑还的先要空杯。这得多严重的控制症。
        • 谢谢你的意见,能使我更好的了解自己。新年快乐! +1
          • 心诚则灵,别人怎样看无关怎样。 +5
            • 谢谢!
          • Training is only meanful and effective upon needs. Take easy. Best wishes to you for 2017 and onwards.
            • 谢谢!
            • 这位大师,meanful 这个词用的好!阴差阳错,歪打正着,又让我们学到新东西了!
              • 嗯,记得以后设计 smart phone 的时候按键大点。也记得把自己心眼再扩扩争取比针鼻大点。谢谢。
                • 这词用的是真好,你知道吧,这是个比较罕见的冷僻词,一般的字典查不到。网上查只有在俗语俚语里面才能有。你说,这还不算是学习新东西吗?
      • 拐着弯说自己想法多
        • 谢谢你给出自己的意见。我有则改之 ,无则加勉。
      • 这个是常说的倒空。我来讲一个亲身的经历吧。遇见一位久别的朋友,就谈到最近有何感想。这位朋友说前一段遇见一位高人---老禅师,十分了得。我很好奇,询问可否分享。朋友十分了得,毫不含糊,拿起一根筷子,往碟子上一敲,举着筷子说:这是什么?
        你们说这是什么呢?
        • 明白了,装高级逼
          • 哈哈哈,这也太不友好了:)
        • a drum stick.
          • 实用!
          • 棒槌?
            • 属于使用派
        • 真是饱汉不知饿汉饥呀,我回答是:一顿饭。是不是有点傻呀:)
        • 明白了!”今天你买单”的意思!
          • 你这这直击要害!
    • 文章很好,有没有英文的?想让孩子也看一看。多谢 +1
      • Actually, the original is written in English and much longer than the one I put here, I cut some part of it. Here is the English version, i cut some too.
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛THERE IS AN OLD TRADITION IN SOME JAPANESE ZEN TEMPLES THAT IF A WANDERING MONK CAN WIN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT BUDDHISM WITH ONE OF THE RESIDENT MONKS,HE CAN STAY THE NIGHT. IF NOT, HE HAS TO MOVE ON.
        THERE WAS SUCH A TEMPLE IN NORTHERN JAPAN RUN BY TWO BROTHERS. THE ELDER BROTHER WAS VERY LEARNED AND THE YOUNGER BROTHER WAS RATHER STUPID, AND HE HAD ONLY ONE EYE.
        ONE EVENING A WANDERING MONK CAME TO ASK FOR LODGING. THE ELDER BROTHER WAS VERY TIRED AS HE HAD BEEN STUDYING FOR MANY HOURS, SO HE TOLD THE YOUNGER BROTHER TO GO AND TAKE THE DEBATE. ”REQUEST THAT THE DIALOGUE BE IN SILENCE,” SAID THE ELDER BROTHER.
        A LITTLE LATER THE TRAVELER CAME TO THE ELDER BROTHER AND SAID, ”WHAT A WONDERFUL FELLOW YOUR BROTHER IS. HE HAS WON THE DEBATE VERY CLEVERLY, SO I MUST MOVE ON. GOOD NIGHT.”
        ”BEFORE YOU GO,” SAID THE ELDER BROTHER, ”PLEASE RELATE THE DIALOGUE TO ME.” ”WELL,” SAID THE TRAVELER, ”FIRST I HELD UP ONE FINGER TO REPRESENT BUDDHA. THEN YOUR BROTHER HELD UP TWO FINGERS TO REPRESENT BUDDHA AND HIS TEACHING. SO I HELD UP THREE FINGERS TO REPRESENT BUDDHA, HIS TEACHING, AND HIS FOLLOWERS. THEN YOUR CLEVER BROTHER SHOOK HIS CLENCHED FIST IN MY FACE TO INDICATE THAT ALL THREE CAME FROM ONE REALIZATION.” WITH THAT THE TRAVELER LEFT.
        A LITTLE LATER THE YOUNGER BROTHER CAME IN LOOKING VERY DISTRESSED. ”I UNDERSTAND YOU WON THE DEBATE,” SAID THE ELDER BROTHER. ”WON NOTHING,” SAID THE YOUNGER BROTHER, ”THAT TRAVELER IS A VERY RUDE MAN.” ”OH?” SAID THE ELDER BROTHER, ”TELL ME THE SUBJECT OF THE DEBATE.
        ”WHY,” SAID THE YOUNGER BROTHER, ”THE MOMENT HE SAW ME, HE HELD UP ONE FINGER INSULTING ME BY INDICATING THAT I HAVE ONLY ONE EYE. BUT BECAUSE HE WAS A STRANGER I THOUGHT I WOULD BE POLITE, SO I HELD UP TWO FINGERS CONGRATULATING HIM ON HAVING TWO EYES. AT THIS, THE IMPOLITE WRETCH HELD UP THREE FINGERS TO SHOW THAT WE HAD BUT THREE EYES BETWEEN US, SO I GOT MAD AND THREATENED TO PUNCH HIS NOSE – SO HE WENT.”
        THE ELDER BROTHER LAUGHED.
        All debates are futile and stupid. Debate as such is foolish, because no one can reach the truth through discussion, through debate. You may get a night’s shelter, but that’s all. Hence the tradition.
        The tradition is beautiful. In any Zen monastery in Japan, for many centuries, if you ask for shelter you have to discuss. If you win the debate, you can stay for the night – this is very symbolic – but only for the night. In the morning you have to move on. This indicates that through debate, logic, reasoning, you can never reach the goal, only a night’s shelter. And don’t deceive yourself that the night’s shelter is the goal. You have to move on. In the morning you have to again be on your feet.
        But many have deceived themselves. They think that whatsoever they have attained through logic is the goal. The night’s shelter has become the ultimate. They are not moving, and many mornings have passed. Logic can lead to hypothetical conclusions, never to truth. Logic can lead to something which approximates truth, but never to the truth.
        And remember, that which approximates the truth is also a lie, because what does it mean? Either something is true or not true; there is no in-between. Either something is true or it is not true. You cannot say that this is a half-truth; there is nothing like that – just like there cannot be a half-circle, because the very word circle means the full. Half-circles don’t exist. If it is half, it is not a circle. Half-truths don’t exist. Truth is the whole, you cannot have it in fragments, you cannot have it in parts. Approximate truth is a deception, but logic can lead only to the deception. You may have a shelter for the night, just to retire, relax, but don’t make it your home. By the morning you have to move again, the journey cannot end there. Every morning it will begin again and again. Relax in the logic, in the reasoning, but don’t remain with it, don’t become static with it – and continually remember that you have to move.
        The tradition is beautiful. So one thing to be understood about the tradition and the meaning; it is symbolic. Second thing: all discussions are foolish, because through the mood of discussion you can never understand the other. Whatsoever he says is misunderstood. A mind which is bent on winning, conquering, cannot understand. It is impossible, because understanding needs a nonviolent mind. When you are seeking how to be victorious, you are violent.
        Debate is violence. You can kill through it, you cannot revive through it. You cannot give life through it, you can murder through it. Truths can be murdered through debate, but they cannot be resurrected. It is violence; the very attitude is violent. Really, you are not asking for the truth, you are asking for the victory. When victory is the goal, truth will be sacrificed. When truth is the goal,you can sacrifice victory also.
        And truth should be the goal, not victory, because when victory is the goal you are a politician, not a religious man. You are aggressive, you are trying somehow to overpower the other, you are trying somehow to dominate and domineer. And truth can never become a domination, it can never destroy the other. Truth can never be a victory in the sense that you have overpowered the other.
        Truth brings humility, humbleness. It is not an ego-trip – but all debates are ego-trips. So debate can never lead to the real; it always leads to the unreal, the untruth, because the very phenomenon that you are after, victory, is stupid. Truth wins, not you, not I. In discussion you win or I win, truth never wins.
        Real seekers will allow the truth to win both. Debaters are asking that the victory should belong to me, it should not belong to the other. In truth, there is no other. In truth, we meet and become one.
        So who can be the winner and who can be the loser? In truth, no one is defeated. In truth, truth wins and we are lost. But in discussion I am I and you are you; really there is no bridge.
        How can you understand the other when you are against him? Understanding is impossible. Understanding needs sympathy, understanding needs a participation. Understanding means listening to the other totally, only then understanding flowers. But if you are discussing something, debating, arguing, reasoning, you are not listening to the other, you only pretend that you are listening. Deep down you are preparing, deep down you have already moved to the next step – when the other stops, what you are going to say. You are getting ready how to refute him. You have not listened to him and you are trying to refute him!
        Really, truth is not significant in a discussion, in a debate. So debate is never a communication, and it is impossible through debate to come to a communion. You can argue, and the more you argue... you fall apart. The more you argue, the bigger the gap is, it becomes an abyss; there can be no meeting ground. That’s why philosophers never meet, pundits never meet: they are great arguers. An abyss exists. They cannot meet with the other – impossible.
        Only lovers can meet, but lovers cannot be in a debate – they can communicate. That’s why so much insistence in the East for shraddha – trust, faith. If you argue with your master the gap widens. Then it is better to move; then let this master be a night’s shelter, but move. Being with him will not lead you anywhere, the gap will widen. If you are argumentative, then the gap cannot be bridged.It is impossible. Trust means sympathy; trust means you are not arguing – you have come to listen, not to argue. You have come to understand, not to debate. You have not come to win; rather, you are ready to lose.
        A real disciple is always in search of being defeated by the master. That is the greatest moment in the life of the disciple, when he is completely destroyed and defeated. Not that the master is going to win; he is going to be defeated, the disciple is going to be defeated. And when the disciple is there no more – completely defeated, disappeared – only then the gap is bridged, the abyss is gone, and the master can penetrate you.
        Hence, it happened: Jesus was wandering all over his country, but all the disciples that he could gather were simple men, not a single educated person, not a single scholar. Not that there were not scholars; there were great scholars at that time. Jews were at the peak of their glory, that’s why they could produce such a son as Jesus. Jesus was the culmination. Jesus could happen – that shows that the Jews touched their peak. Never again would they reach to such a peak. There were great scholars, great debates were arranged. The Jewish synagogue was the seat of learning, a real university. People would travel from all over the country to discuss, to debate, to argue, to find; but it was an argument. Not a single scholar followed Jesus.Really, all the scholars were unanimously agreed that this man should be destroyed. All the scholars learned people, were ready to kill this man. Why? – because this man was against argument. He was pulling at their very base; the whole structure would fall down. This man was saying something against reason. He was talking about faith, he was talking about love, he was talking about how to create a bridge between two hearts.
        Debate is between two minds, two heads; love, communication, trust, is between two hearts. He was opening a new route – of friendship, of discipleship, of growth. He was thinking in terms of a totally different dimension – the quality was different. He was saying, ”Put aside your scriptures. Your bibles are not needed, because they are only words.” The scholar, the pundit, couldn’t tolerate it. Jesus was crucified.
        He could only find simple people: a fisherman, a woodcutter, a shoemaker – simple men. All his disciples, except Judas, were uneducated. Only Judas was really cultured, a refined gentleman, and he sold Jesus for thirty pieces of silver. This cultured, refined Judas betrayed him, and Jesus knew that if anybody can betray him it is Judas. Why? Because the heart can be betrayed only by the head. Love can only be betrayed by logic; nothing else can betray.
        So this is the second thing to remember before I enter the story; that through logic, through the head, argumentativeness, you become alien, strangers to each other; the bridge between is lost.
        How can you attain to the truth when you cannot understand the other, when you are not even capable of listening to him, when your mind goes on and on inside arguing, fighting? You are violent, aggressive. This aggression will not help.
        So all debates are futile, they never lead anywhere. Even if you feel that a conclusion is reached, the conclusion is forced; it is not reached through discussion. You can silence the other but conviction never comes out of it, never. And I say it categorically: never. If you have some logical tricks, you can silence the other. He may not be able to answer you. You know more than he knows. You know more tricks than he knows. You can put him in a corner through words and reasoning and he is unable to answer. But this is not the way to convince him. Deep down he knows that, ”Some day I will find more tricks and put you right in your place. Right now I cannot answer. Okay, I accept defeat.” He is defeated, but not won over.
        And these are two different things. When you win a heart he is not defeated – he is happy. He is victorious in your victory, he participates. It is not your victory – truth has won, and you both can celebrate. But when you defeat a person, he is never won over; he remains the enemy. Deep down he is waiting for the right moment when he can assert himself.
        No debate can become a conviction. And if conviction is not reached, where is the conclusion? The conclusion is forced, it is always premature. It is just like an abortion, it is not a natural birth. You have forced – a dead child is born or a crippled child, who is going to remain crippled, weak and dead his whole life.
        Socrates used to say, ”I am a midwife, I help natural birth.” A master is a midwife. He is not going to force, because a forced birth cannot be a real birth. It is more like death and less like life.
        So a master is never argumentative. And if sometimes he appears to be argumentative, he is just playing with you – and playing for a certain reason. Don’t become a victim. He is playing for a certain reason; he can be argumentative just to find whether your argumentativeness is aroused or not. If it is aroused, you have missed. If you can listen to his argumentativeness without becoming argumentative, he will not play the game with you. He has to look within you. You may be consciously listening, unconsciously argumentative. Then he has to bring your unconscious up so that you can become aware of it.
        Sometimes a master will look as if he is aggressive, as if he is bent upon defeating you. But he is never bent upon your defeat – just to defeat your ego, not you; just to destroy your ego, not you. And remember: the ego is the poison, it is destroying you. Once the poison is destroyed you will be free and alive for the first time. An abundance of light will happen to you for the first time. He is destroying the disease, not you.
        Sometimes he may have to be argumentative. There have been masters who were very argumentative. It was impossible to defeat them, impossible to play the game of words with them. But they were just helping to bring your consciousness up, so that you can become aware whether your faith is true or not.
        It happened: a Sufi, Junnaid, was living with his master. And the master was so argumentative that whatsoever you said, he would immediately negate it. If you said, ”It is day,” he would say, ”No, it is night” – and it was really not so, it was day. Whatsoever Junnaid would say, he would always find that the master would negate it. And he would simply bow down his head and say, ”Yes, Master, it is night.” One day the master said, ”Junnaid, you have won. I couldn’t create argumentativeness in you. And I was so obviously false that anybody who had never argued anything would say, ’What foolishness. It is day. There is no need to argue, it is so obvious.’ And still you said, ’Yes, Master, it is night.’ Your trust is deep. Now I will never be argumentative with you, now I can talk truth, because you are ready.”
        When the heart says yes totally, then you are ready to listen. And only then the truth can be revealed to you. If even a slight no remains within you, the truth cannot be said to you, because that ’no’ will destroy the whole thing. The no, howsoever small, is powerful, very powerful; then the truth will besaid but it will not be revealed to you. The no will hide it again.
        That’s why I say all debates are futile. And that’s why I go on repeating again and again that the whole effort of philosophy has been useless. It has not reached any conclusion – it cannot.

        Now we will enter this beautiful story:
        THERE IS AN OLD TRADITION IN SOME JAPANESE ZEN TEMPLES THAT IF A WANDERING MONK CAN WIN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT BUDDHISM WITH ONE OF THE RESIDENT MONKS,HE CAN STAY THE NIGHT. IF NOT, HE HAS TO MOVE ON.
        Arguments can give you this much – a night’s shelter, but that’s all.
        THERE WAS SUCH A TEMPLE IN NORTHERN JAPAN RUN BY TWO BROTHERS. THE ELDER BROTHER WAS VERY LEARNED AND THE YOUNGER BROTHER WAS RATHER STUPID, AND HE HAD ONLY ONE EYE.
        Two types of people are needed to run a temple: a learned person and a very stupid one. And this is how all temples are run – two types of people: the learned who have become the priests, and the stupid who follow them. This is how every temple is run.
        So these stories are not just stories, they are indications to particular facts. If stupid people disappear from the earth there will be no temples. If learned people disappear from the temples there will be no temples. A duality is needed for a temple to exist. That’s why you cannot find God in a temple – because you cannot find him in a duality.
        These temples are inventions of the clever people to exploit the stupid. All temples are inventions – clever people exploiting... they have become the priests. Priests are the most clever people, they are the greatest exploiters, and they exploit in such a way that you cannot even revolt against them. They exploit you for your own sake, they exploit you for your own good. Priests are the most clever because they spin theories out of nothing: all the theologies, all that they have created – tremendous! Cleverness is needed to create religious theories. And they go on creating such big edifices that it is almost impossible for an ordinary man to enter those edifices. And they use such jargon, they use such technical terms, that you cannot understand what they are talking about. And when you cannot understand you think they are very profound. Whenever you cannot understand a thing you think it is very profound – ”It is beyond me.”
        Remember this: Buddha speaks in a very ordinary language which can be understood by anybody. It is not the language of a priest. Jesus speaks in small parables – any uneducated man can understand it – he never uses any religious jargon. Mahavira talks, gives his teachings, in the language of the most ordinary and common people.
        Mahavira and Buddha never used Sanskrit, never, because Sanskrit was the language of the priest, the brahmin. Sanskrit is the most difficult language. Priests have made it so difficult – they have polished and polished and polished. The very word sanskrit means polishing, refining. They have refined it to such a pitch that only if you are very very learned can you understand what they are saying, otherwise it is beyond.
        Buddha used the language of the people, Pali. Pali was the language of the people, of the villagers. Mahavira used Prakrit. Prakrit is the unrefined form of Sanskrit; Prakrit is the natural form of Sanskrit – no grammar, not much. The scholar has not entered yet, he has not refined the words so they become beyond common people. But the priests have been using Sanskrit, they still use it. Nobody understands Sanskrit now, but they go on using Sanskrit because their whole profession depends on creating a gap, not a bridge – in creating a gap. If the common people cannot understand, only then the priests can survive. If the common people understand what they are saying they are lost, because they are saying nothing.
        Once Mulla Nasruddin went to a doctor – and doctors have learned the trick from the priests: they write in Latin and Greek, and they write in such a way that even if they have to read it again it is difficult. Nobody should understand what they are writing. So Mulla Nasruddin went to a doctor and he said, ”Listen, be plain. Just tell me the facts. Don’t use Latin and Greek.” The doctor said, ”If you insist, and if you allow me to be frank, you are not ill at all. You are just plain lazy.” Nasruddin said, ”Okay, thank you. Now write it in Greek and Latin so I can show it to my family.”
        The clever have always been exploiting the common people. That’s why Buddha, Jesus and Mahavira were never respected by brahmins, scholars, clever ones, because they were destructive, they were destroying their whole business. If the people understand, then there is no need for the priest. Why? – because the priest is a mediator. He understands the language of God. He understands your language. He translates your language into the language of God. That’s why they say Sanskrit is dev-bhasha, the language of God: ”You don’t know Sanskrit? – I know, so I become the intermediate link, I become the interpreter. You tell me what you want and I will say it in Sanskrit to God, because he understands only Sanskrit.” And of course you have to pay for it.
        These are the two types which are needed for a temple.
        THERE WAS SUCH A TEMPLE... RUN BY TWO BROTHERS. THE ELDER BROTHER WAS VERY LEARNED AND THE YOUNGER BROTHER WAS RATHER STUPID, AND HE HAD ONLY ONE EYE.
        What is the symbolism of one eye in this story? A stupid person is always one-pointed: he never hesitates, he is always certain. And a learned person is always dual: he hesitates, he continuously divides himself into two. He is always arguing within, a dialogue continues inside; he knows both the sides.
        A learned man is a duality – two eyes. A stupid man is one-eyed – he is always certain, he has no arguments, he is not divided. That’s why, if you look at a stupid person, a stupid person looks more like a saint than a learned man. If you look at a saint he will have something similar in him also –of the stupid, of the fool. The quality differs, but something is the same; the label differs. The fool is just on the first rung and the saint is on the last rung, but both are at the ends of the ladder. The fool does not know, that’s why he is simple, one-eyed. The saint knows, that’s why he is simple. He is also one-eyed; he calls it the third eye. The two eyes have disappeared into the third. He is also one-eyed – one. He is a unity, and a fool is also a unity. But what is the difference?
        Ignorance also has an innocence about it, just like wisdom has an innocence about it. The learned is just in between: he is ignorant and thinks he is wise. This is the division of the learned man: he is ignorant and thinks he is wise. He is neither at this level nor at that, he hangs in between. That’s why he is always in tension. An ignorant man is relaxed, a wise man is relaxed. The ignorant man has not started his travels, he is at home. The wise man has reached the goal, he is at home. The learned is in between, seeking shelter in some monastery – even for one night, it is okay – he is a wanderer.
        Buddhist bhikkhus have been wanderers, and Buddha has said, ”Be a wanderer until you attain. Be a wanderer. Not only inside but outside also, be a wanderer until you attain. Don’t stop before it.” When you have attained, when you have become a siddha, a Buddha, then you are allowed to sit.
        Ignorance and wisdom have a quality about them which is similar – that is innocence; neither is cunning. So sometimes it has happened that a man of God has been known as a foolish man, a fool – God’s fool. Saint Francis is known as God’s fool. He was! But to be God’s fool is the greatest wisdom possible, because the ego is lost. You don’t say that you know, so you are a fool because you don’t claim knowledge. If you don’t claim, who is going to accept that you are a knower? Even if you do claim, nobody accepts. You have to ammer it on others’ heads. You have to make them silent, argue it. When they cannot say anything, then, with a rudging heart, they accept that maybe, maybe you are. But they will always say, ”Maybe.” They will keep the possibility open that some day they can deny it.
        And if you don’t claim, who is going to accept you? And if you yourself say, ”I am ignorant, I know nothing,” who is going to think that you are a knower? People will accept immediately if you say, ”I don’t know.” They will accept it immediately; they will say, ”We knew it before. We accept it, we totally agree with you that you don’t know.”
        God’s fool! If you read one of the great novels of Dostoevsky, then you will feel what this God’s fool means. Dostoevsky always has, in his many novels, one character who is the God’s fool. In Brothers Karamazov he is there. He is innocent, you can exploit him. Even if you exploit him, he will trust you. You can destroy him, but you cannot destroy his trust – that is the beauty.
        What happens to you? If one man deceives you, the whole of humanity becomes the deceiver. If one man deceives you, you have lost your trust in man – not with this man, but with the whole of humanity. If two or three persons deceive you, you make the judgment that there is no man worth believing. All trust is gone.
        It seems that you wanted not to trust from the very beginning and these two or three people have given you the excuse. Otherwise you will say, ”This man is not trustworthy... but the whole of humanity? – I don’t know, so I must trust unless the contrary is proved.” And if you really are a trusting man, you will say, ”Not only is this man totally untrustworthy this moment, this man was untrustworthy... but the next moment who knows? Because saints can become sinners, sinners can become saints.”
        Life is a movement. Nothing is static. At this moment the man was weak, but in the next moment he may gain control and will not deceive again. So the next day, if he comes, you will believe him again because this day is different, this man is different; the Ganges has flowed so much, it is not the same river.
        Once it happened: one man came to Mulla Nasruddin and asked for some money. Nasruddin knew this man, knew well that this money was not going to be returned, but it was such a small sum that he thought, ”Let him take it; even if he is not going to return it, nothing is lost. So why say no for such a small sum?” So he gave him the money. After three days the man returned. Nasruddin was surprised. It seemed impossible, it was a miracle,
        that this man had returned. After two or three days the man came again and asked for a big sum. Nasruddin said, ”Now! Last time you deceived me.” He said, ”Last time you deceived me – now I am not going to allow it again.” The man said, ”What are you saying? Last time I returned the money.” He said, ”Okay, you returned it, but you deceived me – because I never believed that you would return it. But this time, no. Enough is enough. Last time you behaved contrary to my expectations. But enough; now I am not going to give it to you.” This is how the cunning mind works.
        One was ignorant in this temple – a simple man, one-eyed, certain. One was a learned man, and the learned man is always tired because he is working so hard over nothing. So busy without business, he is always tired.
        ONE EVENING A WANDERING MONK CAME TO ASK FOR LODGING. THE ELDER BROTHER WAS VERY TIRED AS HE HAD BEEN STUDYING FOR MANY HOURS...
        You cannot find a learned man not tired. Go and look! Go to the pundits of Kashi and look. Always tired, always tired, working so hard – with words. Remember, even a laborer is not so tired because he is working with life. When you are working only with words, futile words, just with the head, you get tired. Life is invigorating! Life rejuvenates! If you go in the garden and work, you perspire but you are gaining more energy, you are not losing. You go for a walk and you gain more energy, because you are living in the moment. If you just close yourself in your study with words, with words you go on thinking and thinking and thinking – it is such a dead process, you will be tired. A learned man is always tired. A fool is always fresh, a saint is also always fresh. They have many similar qualities.
        ... SO HE TOLD THE YOUNGER BROTHER TO GO AND TAKE THE DEBATE. ”REQUEST THAT THE DIALOGUE BE IN SILENCE,” SAID THE ELDER BROTHER.
        ... Because he knew that his brother was stupid. So silence is golden if you are stupid, and silence is golden if you are a saint also. If you know something, you will remain silent. If you don’t know, it is better to remain silent.
        A wise man becomes silent because he knows, and whatsoever he knows cannot be said. A fool has to be silent, because whatsoever he says he will be caught. A fool can deceive if he is silent but he cannot deceive if he speaks, because whatsoever comes out of him will bring his foolishness. This learned brother knew well that this younger brother was not a man of words, was a simple man, innocent, ignorant, so he said, ”REQUEST THAT THE DIALOGUE BE IN SILENCE.” A LITTLE LATER THE TRAVELER CAME TO THE ELDER BROTHER AND SAID, ”WHAT A WONDERFUL FELLOW YOUR BROTHER IS.”
        This other man must have also been a learned man, and if a fool is silent he can defeat a learned man. If you speak you will be caught, because then you enter into the world of the learned man. With words, you cannot win.
        This other man was also a learned man, a man of words. It would have been very difficult for him to remain silent and debate. How to discuss? If you are not allowed to speak, just use gestures, the whole thing becomes dumb and your whole cleverness is lost, because if you are not allowed to speak.... That was your only efficiency. So if a learned man is to remain silent he can be defeated by a fool also, because his whole efficiency is lost – it belonged to words.
        In silence he is a fool – this is the meaning. That’s why scholars will never be silent, they are always chattering. If nobody is there, they are chattering with themselves, but they are chattering. They go on talking and talking and talking, within and without, because through this talking their efficiency grows greater and greater, they become more and more proficient. But if they encounter silence, suddenly all their art is gone. They are more stupid than a stupid man. Even a stupid man can defeat them. They are out of their professional world, they are simply switched off. He must have been in very great difficulty. He said, ”WHAT A WONDERFUL FELLOW YOUR BROTHER IS. HE HAS WON THE DEBATE VERY CLEVERLY, SO I MUST MOVE ON. GOODNIGHT.”
        If you encounter a learned man, remain silent. Face him with gestures. You will defeat him because he knows nothing about gestures, he knows nothing about silence. Really, it is very difficult for him to remain without words. The traveler immediately thought he had been defeated – he must move on and reach another monastery before it is too late, and find a fellow who can debate with him in words, intellectually.
        Gestures are alive; when you move your hand, your whole being moves it. When you look with your eyes, your whole being pours through them. When you walk, you walk as a whole man. Your legs cannot walk by themselves, but your head can go on spinning and spinning by itself. The head can become autonomous. No other part of the body can become autonomous. So if you want to study a man, don’t listen to what he says. Rather, look how he behaves, how he comes in the room, how he sits, how he walks, how he looks. Look at his gestures, they will reveal the truth.
        Words are deceivers. We talk not to reveal but to hide. So be silent and look at a person – how he stands, how he sits, how he looks, what gestures he is making. Body language is truer than your head language. And body language is very, very natural; it comes from the very source, so it is very difficult to deceive through it. You may be saying something, but your face goes on saying something else. You may be saying, ”I am right,” but your eyes, your very manner, the way you are standing, says that you know you are wrong. You may be showing through your words that you are confident, but your whole body gives a tremble and shows that you are not. When a thief enters, he enters in a different way. When a liar appears, he appears in a different way. When a man of truth walks, he walks differently. He has nothing to hide, he has no reason to deceive. He is true, his walk is innocent. Just do something that you have to hide, then watch yourself – your body will say everything is different. Even while walking you are hiding something. Your stomach is strained, you are alert, your eyes are looking everywhere to see if somebody is looking or not, whether you are caught or not. Your eyes are sly, they are not pools of innocence – cunning. Watch your body movements, they will give you a truer picture of yourself. Don’t listen to words.
        This I have to do continuously. People come to me with all sorts of deceptions. I have to look at their gestures, not at what they say. They may be touching my feet but their whole gesture is showing ego, so that the touching of feet is useless. They are manipulating it. They are not only deceiving me, they are deceiving themselves. Their whole gesture says, ”Ego!” and whatsoever they say through words is humbleness.
        You cannot deceive through the body; your body is truer than your mind. And all the religions which have been invented by the priests say to you, ”Be against the body and be with the mind” – because a priest lives in the mind, exploits through the mind. With the body it is impossible to exploit; the body is authentic. Even centuries of inauthentic living have not been able to destroy the authenticity of the body. The body remains authentic, it shows clearly who you are.
        ”HE HAS WON THE DEBATE VERY CLEVERLY, SO I MUST MOVE ON. GOOD NIGHT.” ”BEFORE YOU GO,” SAID THE ELDER BROTHER, ”PLEASE RELATE THE DIALOGUE TO ME.”
        He must have been puzzled. How could this stupid brother of his be clever? What has happened? He is a perfect fool – how could he discuss, how could he debate, how could he have won? So he asked,
        ”BEFORE YOU GO, PLEASE RELATE THE DIALOGUE TO ME.”
        ”WELL,” SAID THE TRAVELER, ”FIRST I HELD UP ONE FINGER TO REPRESENT BUDDHA.”
        ... Because a man of learning, even while he is making a gesture, uses the gesture as words, because he knows only one language. If he kisses his beloved, inside he will say the word kiss. This is foolishness; you are kissing, there is no need to repeat ’kiss’ inside, but he will. You watch yourself: while making love, you will say inside, ”I am making love.” What nonsense! Nobody is asking you. Nobody is there to be told. Why do you go on repeating? Whenever you do something, why do you verbalize it? Because without verbalizing you are not at ease. You are at ease only with words. With God you cannot be at ease. With the word god it is okay – that’s why a man of learning will go to the temple, to the mosque, to the church; there too he goes on chattering. He will chatter with God – but words.
        Soren Kierkegaard has said, ”When I first entered the church, I used to talk. I used to say things, complain, pray. But then, by and by, it felt foolish. I am talking to him and I am not giving him any chance, any opportunity for him to talk to me. It is better to listen; when you are before God, it is better to listen.” So he dropped talking. By and by, he dropped all prayer. He would just go into the church and sit silently, but in his silence there were also words inside. He was not using them outside, but inside they were revolving.
        So, by and by, he also had to drop the words inside – then only listening becomes possible. Then you enter a totally different dimension – of listening, of passivity, of receptivity. You become a womb. Then you can receive the truth – then you are not talking, then you are not aggressive. Then only God is working and you are allowing him to work. Then he became absolutely silent; then he stopped going to church.
        Somebody asked, ”Why? Why have you stopped going to church?” He said, ”Now I have learned what church means; it only means to be silent and to be listening. That can be done anywhere, and it is better to do it somewhere else because many other people go there, to the church, chattering. They disturb me. It is better under a tree. It is better under the sky.” The church is greater there, more natural. And if you have to be silent, then God is everywhere.
        If you have to talk, then go to the temple. But if you have to be silent, why go anywhere? He is everywhere, but you cannot be silent. You do something and you repeat it inside. You feel hunger and you say, ”I am hungry.” Is it not enough to feel hunger? Unless you say it, you are not at ease; you have become addicted to words.
        This man... a learned man he must have been, really a perfectly learned man: ”WELL,” he said, ”FIRST I HELD UP ONE FINGER TO REPRESENT BUDDHA. THEN YOUR BROTHER HELD UP TWO FINGERS TO REPRESENT BUDDHA AND HIS TEACHING” – the dhamma.
        A man who cannot use a gesture without words will interpret the other’s gestures also in words. Now look at the link. What is happening? And you will also link the other’s gesture to the same way you interpret your own words.
        He was thinking, ”This finger, one finger represents....” A finger represents nobody. A finger is enough unto itself. A finger is just a finger. Why make it a representative? It is not representative of anybody. And the finger is so beautiful, why should it represent anything? But the mind always loves secondhand things. The finger is not enough, it must represent somebody.
        If you look at a flower, you cannot look at the flower directly; immediately it must represent something. So you say, ”Looks just like my wife’s face.” Even the moon, you say, ”Looks like my beloved’s face.” What nonsense. The moon is the moon. And this man, when he looks at his beloved’s face, will say, ”Looks like the moon.” Neither the moon is enough unto itself, nor the beloved’s face is enough unto itself. And everything is enough unto itself. Nobody is representing anybody.
        Everybody is representing only himself. Everyone is original, unique. No one is a carbon copy. And when you say the finger represents Buddha, Buddha has become the original, the finger has become the carbon copy. No! This Buddha cannot allow it. I cannot allow it! The finger is so beautiful not representing anybody. But if you think your finger represents Buddha, then the other’s two fingers will represent Buddha and his dhamma – his teaching. Because the way you understand the other is not by listening to the other, you understand the other by listening to your own mind. You interpret the other. When I say something, never believe that you have heard the same. When I say something you hear something, but that is not related to me; it is linked with your own thought
        process.
        His thought process was, ”This finger represents Buddha.” Then when the other put up two fingers he was blissfully unaware what he meant. You cannot understand the other if you have words inside, because then everything links with your word, with your thinking process, and then it is colored. The traveler thought he is saying two things are there, not one: Buddha and his dhamma – his teaching, his law.
        ”SO I HELD UP THREE FINGERS” – look at the link inside.
        You are not communicating with the other at all. You are communicating with yourself. This is what madness means. Madness means not relating to the other, just going inside and linking your new moment with the past, the new experience with the past – interpreting, coloring it.
        ”SO I HELD UP THREE FINGERS” – because if he says, ”Buddha, dhamma,” I will say, ”Buddha,dhamma, sangha – Buddha, his teaching and his followers.”
        There are three – these are the three Buddhist shelters. When a bhikkhu wants to be initiated, becomes a bhikkhu, he says, ”BUDDHAM SHARANAM GACHCHHAMI – I go, I take shelter in Buddha. DHAMMAM SHARANAM GACHCHHAMI, I take shelter in the teaching. SANGHAM SHARANAM GACHCHHAMI, I take shelter in the sangha, in the followers of Buddha.” These are the three shelters, the three jewels of Buddhism.
        But this man is not looking at what the other man is doing – totally unrelated! – so he raised three fingers.
        ”SO I HELD UP THREE FINGERS TO REPRESENT BUDDHA, HIS TEACHING AND HIS FOLLOWERS. THEN YOUR CLEVER BROTHER SHOOK HIS CLENCHED FIST IN MY FACE TO INDICATE THAT ALL THESE COME FROM ONE REALIZATION.” WITH THAT THE TRAVELER LEFT.
        A LITTLE LATER THE YOUNGER BROTHER CAME IN LOOKING VERY DISTRESSED. "I UNDERSTAND YOU WON THE DEBATE,” SAID THE ELDER BROTHER. "WON NOTHING,” SAID THE YOUNGER, ”THAT TRAVELER IS A VERY RUDE MAN!” ”OH!” SAID THE ELDER BROTHER, ”TELL ME THE SUBJECT OF THE DEBATE.” ”WHY,” SAID THE YOUNGER BROTHER, ”THE MOMENT HE SAWME HE HELD UP ONE FINGER INSULTING ME BY INDICATING THAT I HAVE ONLY ONE EYE.”
        You understand according to yourself: you read a book, you understand only that which you already know. And you listen, but you interpret with the past, your past comes in. A man with one eye is always aware of the wound. He is carrying a wound; everywhere he is looking for the insult. Nobody is worried about you, but if you have a feeling of inferiority then you are looking for somebody who is going to insult you. You are certain about that, and then you will interpret. The other may be saying, ”Buddha”; you will see he is showing that you have only one eye. Nobody is bothered with your eyes, but we interpret according to our understanding.

        One man reached Bayazid, a Sufi mystic, and asked him a question. He said, ”Come back after one year, because right now you are ill. Your inside is in a turmoil and I cannot utter the truth because you will not understand it – you will MISunderstand it. So for one year try to be healthy, silent, meditative and then come back. If I then feel that you can listen, I will tell. Otherwise, go to somebody else.” The man listened, went away. For one year he made every effort to be healthy, silent, peaceful – but never came back again.
        So Bayazid inquired, ”What happened to that seeker?”
        Somebody said, ”We asked him, ’Why are you not coming?’ He said, ’Now there is no need to come, because I can understand from here, where I am, what Bayazid can say.’”
        This is the paradox: when you are not ready you ask, but then nothing can be said to you. When you are ready you don’t ask, but only then something can be said to you.

        If you are one-eyed you are always looking for insults, and if you are looking for insults you will find them – this is the problem. If you are looking for something, this is the misfortune: you will find it. Not that anybody is insulting you; you will find it. So don’t look for such things, otherwise you will find them everywhere.
        Somebody will laugh – not at you, because who are you? Why do you think yourself to be the center of the world? This is an egoist trend. You are passing down a street and somebody laughs, and you think they are laughing at you. Why at you? Who are you? Why do you take it for granted that you are the center of the whole world? Somebody laughs – laughs at you; somebody insults – insults you; somebody is angry – angry against you.
        In my whole life, I have not met a single person who was angry at me. Many people were angry but nobody was angry at me, because I am not the center of the world. Why should they be angry at me? They are angry – that is something linked with their own being, not with me. I have come across people who were even violent to me, but they were not violent to me. This violence was coming out of their past; I was not the cause of its origination. I may be the excuse, but I was not the cause. Just an excuse – if I was not there, somebody else would have done just the same; somebody else would have become the victim. So it is just coincidental that I was there.
        When your wife gets mad at you, it is coincidental that you are there. Escape! And don’t think too much that she was angry with you. She was angry, you were there, that’s all. She would have been angry at the servant, at the child, at the piano, at anything!
        Everybody lives through his own past. Only buddhas live in the present. Nobody else lives in the present.
        This man thought, ”Okay, he is showing that I have only one eye. He is rude. He is insulting me having only one eye. BUT BECAUSE HE WAS A STRANGER, I THOUGHT I WOULD BE POLITE.”
        But the moment you think you should be polite, you are not polite. How can you be? – the idea has entered: if you think the other is rude, you have become rude. There is not a question now, because the very idea ”the other is rude” is because your own rudeness has come up. Through your rudeness the other appears rude, you have colored the other. The other is showing his finger representing Buddha, he has not even looked at your eye. He is not concerned, he just wants shelter.
        A Buddha... and the interpretation that, ”He is showing that I have got only one eye; he is rude.” When you think about someone that he is rude, look back: you are rude. That’s why you interpret it. But why are you rude? – because your rudeness is a way of protecting your wound. Those people who are rude are always suffering from feelings of inferiority. If a person is not in any way burdened with a complex of inferiority, he will not be rude. Rudeness is his protection. Through rudeness he protects his wound. He says, ”I will not allow you to touch my wound. I will not allow you to hit me.” He protects, but protection becomes projection. He thinks that you are rude, only then can he be rude. This is a way to be rude. First you have to prove that the other is rude, and still your ego says, ”I will try to be polite.” When you are polite, your politeness is nothing but a facade. Inside, rudeness has entered, and sooner or later it will explode.
        ”BUT I THOUGHT BECAUSE HE WAS A STRANGER I WOULD BE POLITE, SO I HELD UP TWO FINGERS TO CONGRATULATE HIM ON HAVING TWO EYES.”
        This is just false. How can you congratulate any person if you feel insulted? If you feel you have got one eye and the others have two, how can you congratulate? Deep down you can be jealous, but how can you congratulate? How can congratulation come out of jealousy? But all your congratulations come out that way. It is a polite way, it is culture, etiquette. If you are defeated by someone, even then you congratulate him for his victory. What falseness! If you were really such a person, you would not have fought at all. When you were fighting you were the enemy, and now you are defeated and you go and congratulate him. But deep down there is jealousy, you are boiling, you would like to kill this man. You will try – in the future, you will see!
        But society needs etiquette. Why does society need etiquette? – because everybody is so violent. If there were no etiquette, we would be at each other’s throats continuously. Society has to create barriers. You should not be allowed to be at each other’s throats continuously, otherwise life will be impossible.
        But you are at each other’s throats continuously. Your etiquette, your culture, your civilized ways, manners, are just to hide this fact. They don’t allow a real civilization to happen. A false thing – that’s why every ten years a great war is needed in which all etiquette, all manners, all morality are thrown away and you can run at each other’s throats without any guilt. Then killing becomes the game; the more you murder, the greater you are. The more you are rude, the greater a warrior you are. And back in your country you will be received as heroes; pad-mabhushan, mahavirchakra, the Victoria Cross will be given to you. You will receive medals. For what are these medals given?
        To become barbarous, to become murderers; and because you have been a great murderer this medal is given to you by your country. And we call these countries civilized – and murderers are recognized, murderers are appreciated.... But only mass-murderers; individual murder and you will be in jail, that cannot be allowed. Only sometimes, when the whole society goes mad, that is war; everything is put aside, your real nature is allowed. That’s why everybody feels happy when there is a war. It should be otherwise – nobody should feel happy when there is a war. But everybody feels happy because now you are allowed to be animals. You always wanted to be that. Your culture, your etiquette, your manners are just polished ways to hide the animal behind.

        The man said "SO I HELD UP TWO FINGERS TO CONGRATULATE HIM ON HAVING TWO EYES. AT THIS, THE IMPOLITE WRETCH HELD UP THREE FINGERS TO SHOW THAT WE HAD BUT THREE EYES BETWEEN US.”
        Whatsoever you do, your wound will come in. The other is saying, ”The three jewels of Buddha,” but for you it is just the wound coming back. You tried to be polite, you tried not to be rude, you even tried to congratulate. But you are you, your mind continues.
        Now he is showing three fingers. Again your mind comes in and says, ”This wretch! He is saying that we have three eyes between the two of us.” Again he is showing that you have one eye. Now this is too much. Now it is enough!
        ”SO I GOT MAD AND THREATENED TO PUNCH HIS NOSE – SO HE WENT.”
        He was mad from the very beginning. Before they had ever met he was mad, because you cannot create madness if it is not already there. You unmanifested can only create things which are already there, your creation is not out of nothing. It is only that an state becomes a manifested state. Anger is there, you need not create it. Somebody becomes the excuse – it comes up. You are not angry at him, he is not the cause. You were carrying the anger – he has become the excuse. Madness is inside; nobody can make you mad if you are not mad already. But we always think that somebody makes us angry, somebody makes us depressed, somebody makes us this and that.
        Nobody makes you anything. Even if you are left alone you will be mad, you will be angry. Even if the whole world disappears there will be moments when you will be sad, there will be moments when you will be happy, there will be moments when you will be angry, there will be moments when you will be very forgiving – although there is nobody.
        It is your inner story that unfolds. This is what a man of understanding comes to realize – that the whole thing is an unfolding of me. You just give me the opportunity, the situation, but the whole thing is an unfoldment of me.
        A seed falls on the ground, sprouts, a tree starts growing. The soil, the air, the rains, the sun, they are all just giving the opportunity, but the tree was hidden in the seed. You carry the whole tree of your unfoldment; everybody else becomes the opportunity. Whenever anything happens don’t look out, look within, because the thing, as it is happening, is linked with your past, not with the person here.
        "I GOT MAD AND THREATENED TO PUNCH HIS NOSE – SO HE WENT.” THE ELDER BROTHER LAUGHED.
        The elder brother could see both standpoints. He could see that the learned wanderer never talked to this man, never gestured to this man. He could see this stupid brother never understood what was gestured. They remained untouched – an abyss was there, no bridge. They debated, they concluded. One was defeated, one has become victorious, and they never met – not for a single moment. He laughed.
        This laughter can become enlightenment. This laughter can become a profound understanding, a transformation. If this laughter is not about the stupidity of this brother or the stupidity of that wanderer, if this laughter is about the whole situation: how the head functions, how two heads can never meet, how two pasts can never meet, how two minds always remain separate – that there is no way for them to meet and mingle with each other.... If he laughs at the whole situation, not at this brother or at that learned wanderer – because if he laughs at this brother or at that learned wanderer, this laughter cannot become enlightenment, he will remain the same – but if he laughs at the whole situation: how the mind functions, how the mind argues, how the mind goes on within itself, never moving out, how the mind is always closed, it is never open, how the mind is just an inner dream, a nightmare.... If he understands that, this laughter will become a shattering. The pail, the whole pail will fall down, the water will flow out – no water, no moon.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • thank you very much
    • 转了这么长,还在辩,累不累啊 :)
      • It seems you likes me and debating a lot, because you can't get rid of either one. Thanks. +4
        • 感兴趣:那你要怎么搭建你们之间爱的桥梁,而非辩论的鸿沟呢?
          • For me, it's trust and listening, no argument and debating. What do you think?
            • 你可以做到,可对方不要倾听,非要辩,非要羸,那怎么办?
              • Then nothing can I do about it right now, just let it be, let him win. But I believe it will change eventually, it takes time. Thanks.
                • 同意,一切都顺其自然吧。生而不有,为而不恃,长而不宰,是谓玄德。
                  • I love what you quoted from the Tao Te Ching. Thanks a lot.
                    • :)
                • I mean nothing else, not nothing.
                • 同意
          • 我差点没笑出来。不过这是个很值得讨论的话题。
            • 你这么一说,我才觉得是挺可乐的!
              • I can't stop laughing either.
          • 大爱于人,鸿沟何存。自由真理,灵魂出宠。:)
            • 既然都是有大爱的人,希望我们能在这个论坛上,以身作则,把这个大爱真的体现出来,做出这个大爱该有的境界。谢谢!
              • 大爱之大,见于真理,不是投人所好,见于皮毛:)
                • 你说的对,我认为大爱应该有的一些具体表现是:真诚,友善,豁达,宽容,理解,倾听,忍让,鼓励等等,这些优秀的品质。也就是常说的正能量。
                  • 这是必须的,但又不是由各自所定的。我若把这些当作词汇,而不是用在生活实际中,便成了虚幻。
                    • 对的,言传不如身教,自己要先能够做出来。正所谓,严于律人,宽于待人。现在人的生活,包括现实的生活以及虚拟网上的生活。
                      • 耶稣基督说:变卖你的家产,分给穷人,然后跟从他。
                        • 我现在在尽我最大的能力,做到我上面所说的这些优良的品质。
                          • 我都不好意思去想这些,免得落入自我。实际中能做一点就算不错了:)
                            • 我能够理解你的意思,谢谢!我就按我的理解,尽我的能力去做吧。
        • Sorry for the mistake i made here, it should be that neither do you want to be away from in steadof you can't get away from.
          • 哈哈哈
        • Sorry for the mistake i made here, it should be that neither do you want to be away from instead of you can't get away from either one.
          • 某人打坐三个时辰,无所获,我所具,再座无用。一人路见,上去询问,那人一触及开:你来,你,你,你:)
        • 真是莫办法啊。看见一个盲人打坐,旧座不起。一位行人上去拍醒,于是盲人如上说:你也喜欢我这样?:)
    • 这个虽然读起来很累,但受益颇多。多谢。