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  • 枫下茶话 / 社会政治 / 加拿大将通过103号动议,任何批评MSL的言论要获罪。请签名反对 +10
    • 这个签名是反对,不是支持吧?签了!
      • 签名就是反对 。这个动议就是单一保护某教,谁要有不同意见谁就被 deemed "islamophobic"
        • 急也没用,研究研究,老问题了
      • 请大家直接把这封信署名后发给本区议员 +1
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛M-103 is an affront to free speech
        To Your MP
        (cc: The Honourable Conservative Party Leader Rona Ambrose and New Democratic Party Leader Tom Mulcair)

        I am writing you to express my deep misgivings and opposition to Motion M-103, titled "Systemic racism and religious discrimination."

        This motion will encourage legislation that would criminalize speech deemed "islamophobic" and lay the groundwork for imposing what is essentially a Sharia anti-blasphemy law on all of Canada.

        This motion uses the term "islamophobia" without defining it, and without substantiating that there is in fact any such widespread problem in Canada.

        This will lead to ideologically-driven overreach and enforcement against alternative points of view—including mature, reasoned criticisms of Islam.

        That kind of content-based, viewpoint-discriminatory censorship is unacceptable in a Western liberal democracy.

        Furthermore, Motion M-103 addresses a particular religion to the government's special consideration, while ignoring hostility toward other faiths, such as Christianity or Judaism.

        Passing this resolution would demonstrate a clear and impermissible governmental preference for Islam over other faiths.

        For all these reasons, I strongly urge that you oppose Motion M-103.

        Sincerely,
        [Your Name]更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Done +2
    • 为了单一宗教居然可以废掉言论自由,这本身太可怕了。 +9
      • “Like all religious groups,Muslims are already protected under our Charter of Rights and Freedoms and criminal law. They do not need a separate law which... in essence are trying to put in place a form of sharia blasphemy law,” +2
      • 当权者在想些什么呀? +2
      • 土豆吃人嘴短把加拿大都要变成IS了
        • In Canada, section 2(b) of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms protects “freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication”. +1
        • 各位,不要偷懒,写信给国会议员及总理,提出异议。单拿出绿教特殊对待,连批评都不行了,侵犯基本言论自由,加拿大将成为伊斯兰国。 +2
    • 太可怕了,如果这个动议通过的话,以后只能完全依从这个教,信仰别的教都有可能获罪,小土豆是不是想把此教定为国教? +6
      • 加拿大已经沦为MSL国家,移民部长是MSL,小土豆谣传也是MSL
        • 小土豆不喜欢猪吗?
      • 奥巴马也是MSL,小土豆怕掉了队。
    • "So far, all parties have indicated unanimous support for the bill."这已经不是政党之争了,而是政治正确的政客与草根之争。 +2
      • 那些政客们没子孙后代吗? +1
        • 捞够以后,想去哪儿就去哪儿。 +2
    • Liberal MP's anti-Islamophobia motion set for debate next week -- 议案提出者是Liberal MP Iqra Khalid,出生于巴基斯坦。。。 +1
    • 可以起草个信件模版,大家一起给本区议员发 +2
      • 这个好。光在这网站上签名不够。
    • 该动议将会使那些极端思想的阿訇可以肆无忌惮地宣传他们的思想,把温和的穆斯林极端化。 +5
    • 加拿大还说是基督教立国的,基督教都没有这待遇。我现在开始相信小土豆有秘密的Agenda 了。 +13
      • 我也相信有猫腻 +1
        • 让穆斯林去作吧。不作不死,他们把自己摆在比其他宗教更高的位置,只会招徕大多数人的反感,从而站到他们的对立面去。我个人还是一如既往地对基督教会和天主教会表示无比的失望,被其他宗教矮化,却没有站出来表示任何异议,还不如我们这些吃瓜的群众。 +5
          • 在伊斯兰法下,基督徒还可以做二等公民,但不信一神教的则要被杀掉。想当吃瓜群众不容易。
            • 天天早起背古兰经,加多一门外语
          • 因为基督教和天主教不是msl。捍卫信仰的方式不同。也有站出来的,但不是以教会的名义。
            • 教会很堕落,随从世界的现象,是必须承认的。士每拿教會的榜样很少有人学。耶稣为什么会死,闭口不言当哑巴,在人的审判中实施静默权就没事了嘛。。。
              • 这是不定敌人的罪,让上帝(父)来惩戒敌人,比自己跳出来有效一万倍。
      • Justin Trudeau To Convert To Islam (Muslim)
      • Video shows Canadian PM Trudeau praying with Muslims at mosque
    • Motion 103 is another death blow to Canada's freedom of speech +2
      • FW: There is no greater recipe for the ultimate destruction of Canada and it's culture than this one. +2
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛There is no greater recipe for the ultimate destruction of Canada and it's culture than this one. Naturally there are those who seek to limit the ability of their political enemies to speak out against cultural tyranny, or any number of political issues. Once you cannot speak out, you are a helpless slave to the tyrants. Your voice is gone. Anything you say can and will be held against you. Fear will overtake you as you realize your ability to defend yourself, your family, your neighborhood, your town, is gone. Once it is gone it is very hard to get back, historically it involves significant amounts of fighting and blood to regain it.

        People of Canada, do not let these people take away your freedom. If you want to keep it as a treasure to pass on to your children and grandchildren, you do not have to wear armor or take up a weapon. You only have to say a resounding NO to this effort AND ANY which seeks to separate you from your liberty!
        Do not sleep while the enemy of freedom comes in like a thief to turn you all to helpless serfs. If you do not, you will be like mice who will not be able then to squeak out a protest against your masters, they will grind you under their boot.
        Speak NOW so your children will not have to take up arms later!更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 各位多多转发,其他论坛,中外文论坛 +1
        • 转微信群了 +1
    • 签了 +1
    • 这是个神马情况?别的宗教信仰都可以随便批评只有msl不能说吗?!说好的言论自由呢?!signed! +5
    • I am against this motion,but this is not a bill, please google the difference between motion and bill. +1
      • 要反对。否则,他们会一步一步慢慢扩张,当年毛爷爷不也就从几个人偷偷摸摸成主教的吗? +4
      • motion 通过之后就会变成Bill,这样理解对不对? +2
        • 错。
          • 他们会一步一步来的。现在谈草案谈立法他们也知道不行,所以从这些最基本开始试探,只要不想加拿大变成另一个叙利亚,就得签名反对。 +3
          • Motion 是 要求某种行动, demand actions. +1
      • "M-103 is different. It’s got teeth. It calls on the Heritage Committee to commence a study on eliminating Islamophobia. The study could then recommend laws to pursue this nebulous goal." +2
        • They can introduce such a bill without such study.
          • “....(c) request that the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage undertake a study on how the government could ....”
            • 这是这个motion中的文字。因为篇幅没有拷全。它的确要求政府进行一个study,而在歧视中只特别提到Islamophobia.
              • 我是解释 motion和 Bill 的不同,我也是反对这个motion,觉得伊斯兰教愚昧粗暴的。
                • ^_^
                • 现在说说还行。就凭你的这句,如果在未来说,恐怕就要获罪。
                  • National Post上一篇文章就表达了作者的同样的担心。而且提到作者的一些记者朋友都以表达了今后报道伊斯兰要更“careful”了,即使是完全正常的批评... +3
      • Is there any need? Why just Islam? Why not every religion? +2
        • exactly!!为什么只有msl老虎屁股摸不得唯我独尊?别的宗教就可以任意批评践踏?
    • 签了,大家都去签名反对。 +2
    • 我完全愿意相信这位MP的动议有着良好的初衷。但是,动议中不清晰的措辞使得这在当前政治正确盛行的环境下很大可能是一个“slippery slope”的开始。 +1
      • 对!当初纳粹主义,GCD也都是这么搞起来的! +2
        • 讲着高大上的主义,获取了大家的支持。等大家上了船发现不对也都晚了。 +1
      • 这位MP是巴基斯坦来的穆斯林。土豆一步步地把加拿大引入白色恐怖的伊斯兰国。 +2
      • 我相信默克尔的难民政策也有着良好的初衷。而之后在德国发生的,全世界都有目共睹了。 +6
        • 引狼入室,农夫和蛇
      • 我不觉得她有良好初衷,她靠这个拿选票,她甚至拒绝CBC的访问。 +3
        • 大家都抢占道德至高点....
          • 没必要过分讨论初衷。多少坏事都是打着“正义”的幌子来干的,中外历史,数不胜数。咱们要做的是,反对破坏言论自由的任何动议,提案,啥啥的。否则,将来,迟早祸及后代。 +3
            • 的确如此。无论初衷,只要它会引向一个slippery slope,即使仅仅是一个动议,我们都应该反对。
        • 对于穆斯林来说,要把伊斯兰教发扬光大就是一个良好的意愿。怎么能说ta没有良好的初衷呢? +2
          • 穆斯林不断测试别人忍耐力的底线
        • Iqra Khalid 的Facebook
          • 留言全是反对的。
            • 议会里的决定最重要。 +1
    • 最好直接致电本区议员表示反对
      • 应该群发邮件给总理以及所有议员
        • 总理会亲自看邮件吗?
          • 总理办公室有人看,这是他们的工作
          • 会看穆斯林好友发来的邮件。 +1
        • 总理把穆穆当亲爹代,我觉得这个动议通过的可能性大,大家不要直接反对穆穆,要表明是维护言论自由
          • 当然,言论自由不容侵犯。法律已经保证每个团体和个人都有平等的不受侵犯的权利,凭什么要单单照顾某个团体?这个动议等于脱裤子放屁。更可怕的是要以压制言论自由为代价。 +1
    • 如果这个动议通过,屠杀查理周刊的穆斯林,应该受到加拿大政府的表彰了, +1
    • Trudeau said the motion aims to address the fact there is a community that is "particularly vulnerable these days to intolerance and discrimination.". -- 土豆说,某群体最近要特别的保护。 +1
      • 去穆斯林精神领袖的私人小岛度假了,总得做点什么,投桃报李。不然下次度假要自己掏腰包了。 +1
        • 不如让总理解释一下这么照顾穆斯林,跟那次度假有什么关系 +1
    • 以后穆斯林在加拿大恐袭,都可以说是维护加拿大法律了,哈哈。。。。
      • 维护伊斯兰律法,还有,警察干涉穆斯林打老婆就是islamaphobia
    • Proxy Error,是网站挤爆了,还是被黑了?
      • 没问题,可以访问啊
    • 签了。谁能告诉我,是哪个孙子发起这个motion 的? 获得了10000签名后,下1步是怎样? 如何阻击它通过? +2
      • Iqra Khalid
        • Last name 是穆斯林的姓氏。下一步是什么?
          • 我认为给议员们写信比较直接,群发给所有的议员,外加总理,表决是全体议会的事,得让他们听到选民的声音。
          • 网友Kris Stevenson:You are an idiot...The Charter of Rights and Freedoms in Canada ensures that everyone is treated equally...What you are doing is b******* putting one religion above the Canadian values and desensitizing our rights as Real Canadians. +2
            • well said. 一个idiot提出一个愚蠢且疯狂的动议并不可怕,可怕的是动议还能被通过,这才悲哀。 +1
          • 送猪肉给他 +1
        • 无比多人在她的脸书上骂她。左左误国,我一直提醒自己要中庸,别太走极端,可这些左翼政客真的都让人控制不住地往极右翼方向去。 +6
          • 跟开车一样,左转大了,得大幅度右拐才能矫正过来。
          • 我一直提醒自己做人要耐撕,但是不能没有原则毫无底线的耐撕,特别是当别人利用你的耐撕来践踏你的权利时
          • 很多人向左狂奔的时候,原来的中间派只要站在原地不动也会变成右右了 +1
        • Mississauga Erin Mills 的华人不少,怎么就选出了这货? +4
      • 加拿大的青蛙们在政治正确这锅温水中已经煮了很久,我在想如果这件事能给添一把火让水温骤然上升,能刺激到青蛙们唤醒他们的危机感,也未必不是一件好事。哪里有压迫哪里就有反抗。加拿大该醒醒了。 +6
        • 同感。我也希望穆斯林多提这种无赖要求,甚至,尽快实施大规模恐袭。。。 +1
          • 越早发生其实越好,让大家看清楚目前的格局我们都身在什么样的境况了,再晚点就迟了,拼不过木木繁殖的速度了
          • 核电站那边房子也涨得快,好多华人过去,好像没有木木。
        • 这档子事情应该会让川普的难民政策在加拿大民众中的认同度大大提高。 +3
          • 这个女木木的动议要是放在美国应该早被川普一口痰给淹了吧 +1
          • 提高也没用,咱土豆总理愣是要张开怀抱你能拿他咋滴。唉
        • 大家一起来给本区议员写信。反对到底! 反对一切躲在反仇恨大旗下,将穆斯林权置于人人平等的普世人权之上的阴谋! 反击这种manipulating 人权的阴谋! 无论有用无用,大家一起来努力,捍卫真正的人人平等的人权。 +3
    • 接下来就依法禁止查理周刊在加拿大销售、。。。依法关闭rolia,51、、
      • 接下来是禁猪,从娃娃抓起
        • 红烧猪蹄的菜谱都不能贴上网了,哈哈哈。。。。
          • 本坛左左一个都没来本贴,是不是正在紧急拷备红烧猪蹄红烧肉等等的菜谱啊。。。。
    • 我觉得,各党议员表态支持这种提案,主要是因为政治正确,绿教就利用了这一点绑驾了议会。 +1
      • 我们写信可以由几点切入:各宗教和团体都受法律保护,针对仇恨犯罪有完善的应对体系;加国社会宽容有目共睹,Quebec出事后社会各方也都出来支持某教众;言论自由是加国基本人权,立国之本不容侵犯;这个议案毫无意义,纯属浪费纳税人的钱。 +1
      • 今晚才看了一篇,政治正确+木木=亡国。参见科特迪瓦的历史(原名象牙海岸,非洲西海岸的一个国家) +1
    • 估计土豆下一步是认可本拉登的宗教精神,宣扬本拉登的理想,再下一步就是加拿大成为反美基地。美国加拿大终于开打;所以大家没必要那么激动。川普很快就会收拾掉土豆。 +3
      • 加拿大划归美国,加拿大或成最大赢 +3
    • 签了!11,o73 +1
    • Done. 11,198 +1
    • Done. 11327 +1
    • Done! +2
    • 還有請記住,下回一定要把小土豆推下台! +23
      • 自由党对移民好,自由党对中国好,自由党对穷人好...楼下请保持队形。欢迎凯文牌点赞机加持
    • 网上有木木要求大家支持家里的sharia law:
      Sharia Law in our own Homes
      © craigslist - Map data © OpenStreetMap

      (google map)
      On Febrary 16 Mr Tudeau and is government should support us in our beliefs. In Canada we have the right to our religion. We MUST support our rights. Our god knows that we pray and follow his rules. Our laws protect us, our families and our women. As a peaceful right, we ask everyone's support on Febrary 16. Vote yes. Call your politicians and tell them that we all have right to religion.
      • 心急要吃热豆腐?
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    • 我和我老公己签了 +1
    • Done -- 23,280 +1
    • 最新的信息听说这个动议很可能会通过。任何“亵渎”伊斯兰的言行就是犯罪行为。 希望大家给stephen Harper 写信: stephen.harper@conservative.ca
      • 已经下台了
      • 这个跟贴太有喜感了LOL
    • 请大家直接把这封信署名后发给本区议员 +1
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛M-103 is an affront to free speech
      To Your MP
      (cc: The Honourable Conservative Party Leader Rona Ambrose and New Democratic Party Leader Tom Mulcair)

      I am writing you to express my deep misgivings and opposition to Motion M-103, titled "Systemic racism and religious discrimination."

      This motion will encourage legislation that would criminalize speech deemed "islamophobic" and lay the groundwork for imposing what is essentially a Sharia anti-blasphemy law on all of Canada.

      This motion uses the term "islamophobia" without defining it, and without substantiating that there is in fact any such widespread problem in Canada.

      This will lead to ideologically-driven overreach and enforcement against alternative points of view—including mature, reasoned criticisms of Islam.

      That kind of content-based, viewpoint-discriminatory censorship is unacceptable in a Western liberal democracy.

      Furthermore, Motion M-103 addresses a particular religion to the government's special consideration, while ignoring hostility toward other faiths, such as Christianity or Judaism.

      Passing this resolution would demonstrate a clear and impermissible governmental preference for Islam over other faiths.

      For all these reasons, I strongly urge that you oppose Motion M-103.

      Sincerely,
      [Your Name]
      input you post code to find MP
      更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 放在这贴里, 好多人看不见, 为了让更多人看见, 你单独发一贴吧.
    • omg,加拿大政客怎能如此无原则的世界大同?如果不是脑子坏了就是为一己私利,比如政绩,仕途,作秀。 +1
    • MSL是什么的缩写?
      • 美死了