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  • 枫下茶话 / 社会政治 / 关于HIJABHOAX我和本区MP交换邮件内容,希望对如何运用本地语言逻辑让对方接受自己观点有所参考。 +14
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Dear Mr. Ken Hardie

    As a Canadian in your riding that voted for you in the past federal election, I feel the urge to write to you in order to express my grave concerns over the hijab-cutting incident that took place in Toronto the other day. The incident, together with the handling of the incident by the Toronto police, has drawn tremendous attention from the Asian Canadian community.

    The reported hijab-cutting incident, which was quickly condemned by the Prime Minister, was later revealed as 'did not happen' by the Toronto police, without disclosing any details as to what really happened, why this happened, and how such incident can be prevented from happening again in the future.

    I would like to ask for your help to request the Toronto police to disclose sufficient information pertaining to this incident in a public, fair and responsible manner. I believe each every Canadian has the right to know what happened in our communities, esp. those that hurt the feelings of certain ethnic groups within this diversified country, and, as a tax payer, whether the utilization of public resources is fair and responsible.

    Therefore, I want to see more transparency in the handling of this incident by the Toronto police and I'm looking to you for assistance to get the clarity in the matter. Thank you.

    Br.
    XXXXXX




    Hi XXXXXX,

    Thanks for your note about this situation. I think many of us were shocked and outraged when the girl first made her claims, mainly because we know such incidents are possible in Canada. Next Friday the 26th marks the first anniversary of the shooting at a Quebec City mosque that left six worshipers dead.

    I have no problem relaying a request to the Toronto Police for more information, but I’d like a better idea as to what kind of information you want to gather. Perhaps some form of official report or publication of the investigation notes?

    You probably know that had the girl been a few years older, she could have been charged criminally with ‘public mischief’ for instigating a police investigation with a false claim. As an 11-year-old child, however, she would not be charged under Canadian law. I gather that her school, her parents and others are teaming up to get to the reasons for her action and to teach her about the harm such false stories can create.

    This girl did something that other kids from all backgrounds have also done, and a whole field of study exists, such as this article: https://www.truthaboutdeception.com/lying-and-deception/children-and-lying.html

    I appreciate your distress that someone from your community was falsely accused. Judging from the emails and conversations I've had, there are many who, along with me, share your feelings. For what it's worth, in the media review I’ve done, not that many outlets picked up that aspect of the story, but I have sent a message to our residents in Fleetwood – Port Kells assuring them that while the government expressed outrage at what we thought was a real incident, where an accused was concerned, we would leave the fact finding and charges to the authorities.

    Please feel free to get back to me with your thoughts.

    Best regards,

    Ken Hardie, MP
    Fleetwood – Port Kells




    Dear Mr. Ken Hardie

    Thanks for your quick response, I appreciate your support and sharing the same feeling.

    Kids are always innocent, they are white paper when they are born, it's not how stupid a 11 year old girl did matters, it's how and what her parents teach her matters.

    Our purpose is not to charge a 11 year girl for making up such a hoax, the girl herself is also victim, nobody knows if she was forced to do so, was she threatened or maltreated in such a family? I can't imagine how a 11 year old girl was interviewed in front of so many people by the media and described an incident that never happened in such a practiced and peaceful manner, shouldn't her mother Saima Samad be futher investigated? Why in most cases the child protection agency quickly step in whenever someone reports a child be under threat and here Saima Samad just said "I thought it was real too" then everybody should trust her.

    Like in twitter, @kevinmklerks wrote: I wonder how the Asian males in Toronto feel about being targeted by those behind the HijabHoax, Sadly they are probably used to it because, after all, they are "just" Asians and not Muslims.

    Islamophobia shouldn't exist in this country, we're all working hard towards this goal, not only Muslims themselves, but also all ethnic groups in Canada, will this incident helps reduce Islamophobia or promote it? or create another kind of phobia? it's worth all the politicians and media to ponder.

    We don't want to use one phobia again another phobia, nobody should live under any phobia, no matter Muslims or Asians, it is what the parents job should teach their children, so I think the Toronto Police should investigate Saima Samad and give the public information how her daughter is educated in the family, if she's living in a safe, normal environment.

    We'll appreciate if you could get our voice and concerns cross to the media and Toronto Police.

    Best Regards
    XXXXXX




    You can count on all my support, Steve. I will ensure the Prime Minister’s Office and the Toronto Police are aware of the community’s concerns.



    Ken




    Dear Mr. Ken Hardie

    Can't appreciate your more, sorry to bother you again, forgot to mention one thing, last year, just in Fleetwood, a Chinese new immigrant saved a refugee from middle east from a crazy brutal dog and got serious injured, in hospital, when people asked him, would you regret doing so, he said no. No politician and media stressed such a positive and touching story, in the case of hijab hoax, they couldn't wait and jumpt to conclusion before the investigation was done.

    After the hijab hoax, If next time the first story happen again, would that man think twice? that's why I think it's important for all of us to learn from it, the two cases, which one help us unite and which one help divide?, anyone likes to see division in this country?

    As an hardworking and ordinary person, I don't have much channel and resources to get my voice to heard, that's why I wrote to you, a trusted MP of me, I hope you can help all Canadians at your best.

    Sincerely
    XXXXXX更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Super! +5
    • 象这种没有任何事实依据的指控,用脚趾头都会想到政客会怎么回答,而且很可能是助理C&P,要是有用,早就有人已经做了,还轮到连英文信都写不清楚的移民。OMG,the little girl hurt my feeling? LOL +2
      • 爱怎么回答就怎么回答,我到这里生活就不是为了面子,有什么好笑的,按你说的怕人嘲笑就当个哑巴算了,那你再这儿发表这些负面的东西不怕别人嘲笑吗?这事跟你没关系,不用你管,你要是有面子的人下边就别回了,谢谢。 +9
        • 在加拿大要学会加拿大人一样思考,如果这是法律问题你要去找律师,如果这是心理问题,你要问心理医生,如果是政治问题,你要有政治谈判的POWER,而你把却拿心理问题去找政客解决? +3
          • 有逻辑没?TM撤到心理问题上, +7
            我就是让我们选区的MP向多伦多警局转达我作为一个候选人的意见,希望他们对小孩的家庭进行进一步的调查,以确保她不是被强迫或者接受不正当教育从而造成对社会和其他社区的伤害,尼玛一个邻居跟儿童保护机构报告有小孩疑似受到威胁都会得到认真处理,我这个要求是我的正当权利,至于MP怎么做,警察局怎么做当然是他们按他们职责范围内该做的做喽,如果调查没问题,那OK了,谁也没想把谁送监狱,但这么大事如果连调查都不做就说不过去了,哪怕敷衍也行啊,我要的就是个说法,你敷衍我我也认,即使不敷衍我也没那咸功夫跟进,写完了我的任务就完成了,有什么大不了的,瞧把你吓的,就这么简单个事,扯到什么律师心理医生上去了,唉,做人爷们儿一点好不,要不回学校补补逻辑课程。
            • as an asian, someone hurt your feeling. 这是心理问题,难道政客可以解决? 如果需要知道真相,这是法律问题,你需要的是问警察。我怎么错了? +1
              • 有逻辑吗, +4
                我哪句话说要政客解决我的feeling了,我就是让他帮忙转达社区意见给警方啊,我是要知道真相啊,我就是让政客帮我问警察啊,督促他们调查啊,你想说啥啊,你说的是我应该直接问警察,而不是让MP帮着问是吗,我也直接给多伦多警察局写信啦,我没说你错啊,咱俩意见一致啊,就是都应该找警察啊,哈哈,你想说啥啊,逻辑兄,祝你做个好梦。
          • 你说得对,在加拿大就是要按加拿大人一样思考,感觉被人歧视就要发声,楼主做得好。在加拿大,就今天,加拿大穆斯林组织就发声明,表示很担心小女孩说谎被揭发后,穆斯林就不敢再说谎了。既然加拿大穆斯林人能投诉feeling, 华人为何不可? +4
    • 希望大家都给本地选区MP写这样的信,谎言重复一千遍就是真理,我们真实的情况还怕叫得多吗,总归会有影响力的。 +11
      • 只要说自己和社会受到的伤害,不去攻击别人尤其是孩子,怎么写都不会有事 +5
      • 别逗了,人家的工作就是处理各种抱怨,你们这种此地无银三百两的撒娇做态,人家会理你?真把肉脸一小撮乌合之众中年大妈当回事了,等你有自己的组织,纲领,影响力才有讨价还价的能力 +3
        • 有没有用无所谓, +3
          万一有点用呢,不就写几个字吗,因为这事与我有关系,所以我关心,需要做点事,做人要正面一些,否则还活着干什么,反正早晚也得死,按你的道理啥也别做自杀算了,反正早晚也得死,挣钱也没用了,如果你认为这事跟你没关系就别跟着讨论了,如果认为有关系就给点正面建议,否则纯粹跟自己添堵。
          • 不就是仇穆吗,谁都不是傻子,别说政客们天天面对就是这些事情,就连我这外行都知道结果先同情一下你被伤害的感情,但是人家要按法律办事 +3
            • 都不是你说了算的,祝福你。 +4
              • northyork人见人厌,你不用理他。 +13
        • 怎么说着说着说到中年大妈?这个态度不怎么对吧?而且还是乌合之众的中年大妈 +4
          • 哦,得罪了, +1
        • 你就是鲜肉一枚,不是中年大妈生出来得?!你这就是赤裸裸的性别歧视,年龄歧视!整天满嘴高大上,就冲这一句你就是个道貌岸然的伪君子!侮辱女性,侮辱母亲,没有中年大妈,人类都灭绝了!哪怕是克隆繁殖,胚胎最后也得找个子宫放进去长,你以为试管烧瓶能结出个人参果? +7
          • 我只是把祥林嫂和大妈搞政治的现象说出来,你想什么啊?难道大妈是贬义词?肉联这里不是大叔就是大妈吧?如果你认为你是小鲜肉,那就得罪了,算我不识货
            • "大妈"在我看来不是贬义词,放你嘴里一说就变味儿了。你的"乌合之众中年大妈"是啥意思?奇怪了,难道你不是鲜肉?那就是大叔了? +3
              • 是你心理有歧视的本能,就像别人一说犯罪份子是asian,你马上阶级斗争的细胞就运作起来
                • 什么犯罪分子,在哪?你才是歧视女性,特别是中年女性。"乌合之众中年大妈"谁说得?你去查我所有的帖子,找找有没有任何种族歧视的言论字句?想诬陷我种族歧视,不可能!就像当初想诬陷我是犯罪分子一样,不可能,我有铁证如山不在现场的证据和证人。 +3
        • 你这无耻之徒又在这对中年女性群体的年龄,与性别使用歧视性语言攻击嘲笑。 +3
    • 写的很棒。。。 +9
    • 说得太好了!点赞! +8
    • 我觉得这次事件反应这么大,完全不是这件独立事件引起的,而是自由党长期的对穆斯林的纵容导致的。。。 +11
      • 也就是肉脸的川粉反应大,外面除了几个评论外,根本静悄悄,因为大部分人不过是把这当普通小孩报假案 +3
        • 肉联人收入达二十万,吃喝不愁,不来点事不够刺激。 +1
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    • 顶一下。+1 +1
    • 赞!借贴问一下,有谁联系了谭耕没有?他怎么表态的?
    • Good job! Thank you! +1
    • You did the right thing! Thank you! Good Job! +1