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  • 枫下沙龙 / 谈天说地 / "The FBI Informant Who Wasn’t Spying - A secret source insinuated himself with Trump campaign officials. Ho hum." - WSJ Editorial Board +3
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛The FBI Informant Who Wasn’t Spying
    A secret source insinuated himself with Trump campaign officials. Ho hum.

    By The Editorial Board
    Updated May 20, 2018 9:53 p.m. ET

    Well, what do you know. The Federal Bureau of Investigation really did task an “informant” to insinuate himself with Trump campaign advisers in 2016. Our Kimberley Strassel reported this two weeks ago without disclosing a name.

    We now have all but official confirmation thanks to “current and former government officials” who contributed to apologias last week in the New York Times and Washington Post. And please don’t call the informant a “spy.” A headline on one of the Times’ stories says the “F.B.I. Used Informant to Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not to Spy, as Trump Claims.”

    We’ll let readers parse that casuistic distinction, which is part of a campaign by the FBI and Justice Department to justify their refusal to turn over to the House Intelligence Committee documents related to the informant. Justice and the FBI claim this Capitol Hill oversight would blow the cover of this non-spy and even endanger his life. Yet these same stories have disclosed so many specific details about the informant whom we dare not call a spy that you can discover the name of the likeliest suspect in a single Google search.

    We now know, for example, that the informant is “an American academic who teaches in Britain” who “served in previous Republican administrations.” He has worked as a “longtime U.S. intelligence source” for the FBI and the CIA.

    The stories provide the names of the three Trump campaign officials who the informant sought to court— Carter Page, Sam Clovis and George Papadopoulos —as well as specific dates and details of the encounters. He met with Mr. Page at a symposium at a “British university” in “mid-July,” and stayed in touch with him for more than year. He met with Mr. Clovis at a “hotel café in Crystal City,” Virginia, on “either Aug. 31 or Sept. 1.”

    The informant didn’t previously know the three men but offered to help with the campaign. He also threw money at Mr. Papadopoulos, and the stories even report the exact language of the message the informant sent to Mr. Papadopoulos offering him a $3,000 honorarium to write a research paper and a paid trip to London. Media accounts differ about whether the informant asked the three men what they knew about Russia. But this sure sounds like a classic attempt to make friends for intelligence-gathering purposes.

    This ought to disturb anyone who wants law enforcement and U.S. intelligence services to stay out of partisan politics. We can’t recall a similar case, even in the J. Edgar Hoover days, when the FBI decided it needed to snoop on a presidential campaign. Devin Nunes, the House Intelligence Chairman, is seeking documents to learn exactly what happened, what triggered this FBI action, and how it was justified. This is precisely the kind of oversight that Congress should provide to assure Americans that their government isn’t spying illegally.

    Yet now the same people who lionized Edward Snowden for stealing secrets about metadata—which collected phone numbers, not names—claim the FBI informant is no big deal. James Clapper, Barack Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, claims it was even a “good thing” that the FBI was monitoring the campaign for Russian influence.

    Forgive us if we don’t trust Mr. Clapper, who leaked details related to the notorious Steele dossier to the press, as a proper judge of such snooping. Would he and the press corps be so blasé if the FBI under George W. Bush had sought to insinuate sources with Obama supporters like Rev. Jeremiah Wright or radical Bill Ayers during the 2008 campaign?

    Incredibly, Democrats and their media friends are painting Mr. Nunes as the villain for daring even to ask about all this. Mark Warner, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, is making the rounds warning that “the first thing any new” committee member “learns is the critical importance of protecting sources and methods.”

    Sure, but as far as we know Mr. Nunes hasn’t disclosed the source’s name—certainly not to us—even as anonymous Justice officials all but paint a neon path of details to the informant’s door. Justice and the FBI have disclosed more to their media Boswells than they have to the people’s representatives in Congress.

    ***
    As is his habit, President Trump belly-flopped into this debate over the weekend with demands that Justice investigate whether his campaign was spied on. Justice officials quickly asked the Inspector General to investigate, and this will polarize the political debate even further.

    But the stakes here go beyond Mr. Trump’s political future. The public deserves to know who tasked the informant to seek out Trump campaign officials, what his orders were, what the justification was for doing so, and who was aware of it. Was the knowledge limited to the FBI, or did it run into the Obama White House?

    As important, what are the standards for the future? Could a Trump FBI task agents to look into the foreign ties of advisers to the Bernie Sanders presidential campaign in 2020? Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein need to clear the air by sharing what they and the FBI know with the House. This is bigger than blowing a source whose identity Justice leakers have already blown. This is about public trust in the FBI and Justice.

    Appeared in the May 21, 2018, print edition as 'The Informant Who Wasn’t Spying.'更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • FBI的行为也许是legit的,也许并不是政治化的,可是像文章中讲的“The public deserves to know”。而且“what are the standards for the future?”如果下次大选FBI对民主党候选人做同样的是怎么办? +3
      • 现在国会调查这件事,就是要FBI和司法部拿出当初卧底调查川普的正当理由。FBI和司法部以奇葩理由拒。本来这正式他们洗白自己的好机会。。。 +3
        • 美国有种好东西叫法律,FBI和司法部也得守法。现在不仅仅PUBLIC,连议会监督都不让,无论如何说不过去。 +3
          • 也许其中一些人真的认为自己做的是正义的。可是为了“高尚的理由”而不顾法律和必须的监督...结果会如何中年以上的国人多少都了解些... +2
            • 说实话,我不相信他们自己会认为自己是正义的,都是老中医了。。。谁不明白啊。真认为自己是正义的,也不会怕国会监督 +5
              • 也难说,为了“正义”而“不惜”违法可能容易让一些人还是挺“高尚”的。电影里那种人多数是英雄。。。可能一些人带入感强了一些吧。。。LOL
            • 拉到吧,直接对司法部和FBI下令调查政治对手已经干涉司法,作为中年的你看到了什么?还不是只看到一边?嘿嘿 +2
    • "Justice and the FBI have disclosed more to their media Boswells than they have to the people’s representatives in Congress." +3
      • 一针见血。奥巴马这几年,把美国的法制摧毁得一塌糊涂。。。 +3
    • 川普今天发推,看样子在所谓“通俄”调查上要展开反击了。 +2
      • 感觉关键在司法部长,明显的违法嫌疑,没人敢查。如果塞申斯还不行动,估计就得让位了。 +2
        • 司法部内的监察长就可以启动调查。
      • 中期选举越来越近,民主党攻城略地步步为营,16年投给川普的都倒戈相向,川普急了,直接对FBI和司法部下令,干涉司法公正,一旦中期选举失败,川普分分钟被弹劾 +1
    • trump狗急跳墙,以为把FBI换人就能为所欲为,要真有料不会等这时候了早就有FBI的递上投名状,OBAMA都要卸任了做这种事情MAKE NO SENSE,川粉憋坏了,可惜是根稻草 +3
    • 从已知往的剧情回看,差不多是这样的:fbi和司法部往川普阵营派了几个卧底,这些卧底并不是去收集川普违法的资料,而是主动联系俄国人以便让fbi“正好”抓住机会开始监听川普阵营;环环相扣,细思极密。。 +3
      • 这方案不错,如果到时候真的有证据证明川普阵营有人通俄,就说他是FBI派来的,不信整不倒奥巴马。 +1
        • 你说了不算,得司法部批准,fbi签字;到底谁是卧底,司法部现在是拼了老命的不说 +2
          • 嗯,幸好FBI派卧底都是有文件的。。。我去,不会像西姐的邮件门一样,文件都“误删除”了吧?听说兼职卧底从FBI领了二十多万美刀的薪水,不会没工资条吧? +3
        • 而且,派卧底只是内部的,外部的,利用英国、俄国间谍编造的川普通俄的谣言遥相呼应,拿到fisc的监听权 +2
          • 嘿嘿,最后都是民主党加FBI一手操作的。 +1
            • 这回全让特朗普扣在里面了 +1
      • 嗯,赶脚基本上是这个套路。厚黑学奥哥是博士啊。现在奥哥的打手,大言不惭滴说,派人卧底,并主动联系俄罗斯,以发动川普通俄,是对川普的保护。。。LOL +3
    • 老川可以把这件事来龙去脉调查清楚,下次选举前放出风声来,要如法炮制,监控对手,保管民主党大佬吓得屁滚尿流。