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  • 枫下家园 / 美丽家居 / 浴室装修
    有没有雇佣home depot做浴室的?我和几个华人的装修师傅谈过,觉得他们都没有按标准做防水。
    • 加拿大还讲防水?你是的时是瓷砖铺的不好,
      • 不论在哪里,于是都要做专业防水。瓷砖不算
    • 做SHOWER是需要做防水的,contractor都能能省就省,反正也不会马上就漏
    • 华人装修大部分一般就用所谓的mold resistance 的绿色dry wall 就是防水了。应该至少用cement board. 最好加用red guard. +1
      • Densshield
        • 我在网上看一些讨论,好像是cement backer board更好一点。 builder也用水泥板
          • builder use densshield. it's faster to install, light weight, easy to cut, and design of exactly for that purpose. Cement board is fine too but it lacks the above benefits.
            • Yes,
              the benefits of the densshield boards are obvious. But for me, it sounds that those are more beneficial to the builders but not to the buyers. By the way, I have an acquaintance who works for the builder as an estimator and she told me that her company uses cement backerboad when building the houses.
              • Of course it does. I custom built my house. Budgeting is important. Ease of installation is important. Denshield cost the same as cement board by the way. Also an estimator might not know exactly what is used in the field. When I was in high school,
                I was an estimator for an engineering firm doing reserve fund studies.

                You just measure from the drawings and cost base on a price from a book.

                I like to use newer material. They are generally better designed and very specific for its purpose. Just like I like PEX over copper pipe...
    • 加拿大和美国做浴室不考虑地面防水,
      不过前些年我给一个中国人做过一个浴室, 按客户的要求先做整个浴室地面防水, 然后再做浴室, 还有防水门槛, 这样他这个浴室里可以随便积水, 光着脚泡在水里下面也不会漏. 不过这不是北美标准, 客户喜欢,我们不就是做工的嘛, 反正我家的装修严格按照北美标准来做.
    • 好像大家说的不是一回事。楼主问的到底是淋浴那里的防水?还是浴室其他地面的防水?淋浴的防水肯定是要好好做的,浴室其他地面这边好像是不做防水的。
      • 我问的是淋浴室的防水 :)你看出楼歪了
        • 既然防水,我觉得应该留一个下水洞,万一楼上积水,不会大损失。
    • 我的见解:这不是很好回答的问题。会不会漏水取决于很多因素。最容易做的是浴盆上面有个淋蓬头,因为下半截已经保证了。最不容易做的是淋浴间的地面。
      有些产品给出的是模棱两可的答案。比如说这个产品是防潮的,moisture resistant。很铿锵有力的词是防水的,waterproof。为什么不说呢?做不到啊。

      淋浴间的复杂在于从上到下的要求是不一样的。一个比较宽敞的淋浴间(比如4' x 6'),上面装一个落雨的淋蓬头,rain shower,水直接就淋到地上,对墙的要求就不那么严格了。瓷砖后面五花八门的。有用becker board, densshield, schluter kerti, etc. 小的淋浴间(比如3'x3'),太多的水溅到墙上,防水就比大淋浴间显得重要。

      对于淋浴间的地面,就要谨慎一点。moisture resistant is not good enough。还是坚持做防水盆。

      还有瓷砖的大小,砖缝的大小也有很大影响。直观地认为,水不会穿透瓷砖的。那么瓷砖块越大,缝越小,渗漏进缝里的机会就少了,对防水材料的要求也就不那么苛刻。

      当然还有做工了。

      如果是给自己做,宁可信其有,防水做得谨慎一点,至少下半截是这样。简单的淋浴间直接买一个标准的塑料盆,会省去很多防水工作了。有了塑料盆,四周的墙是坐落在盆里面的。即使有少许渗漏也不至于渗到楼下。
      • 专业
    • 我家淋浴房装修时用水泥板,加防水薄膜,做好水泥底部后,铺瓷砖前刷四遍Redgard.估计很多装修师傅没功夫铺薄膜又刷redgard的。很多人认为是overkill了,但我让装修师傅这样做,我将来十年也不用担心漏水了。
      • 好像大多数都不刷redgard. 其实刷很快的据说干的也快
      • 我也要求刷