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  • 工作学习 / IT杂谈 / Comments on a guest's job hunting experience (lesson) --#168056 -jabber(jabber); 2001-8-17 {2230} (#170984@0)
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛The job market right now is very slumpy. It is natural for the employer to be picky.

    I am in Virginia, USA. We hired a few people recently. We made our decision right after we walked out the job candidates. Whenever we found some candiates are good, we decide to hire him/her immediately. Our job references are usually done within two days. Actually, our job references are kind of formalities. The reason is that we believe our own judgements on the job candidates.

    The company you coped with is too burearatic and stupid. Not all the companies do things like them.

    By the way, do not give up in any case. Let me tell you a true story. I have not posted my notes here for a long time because I have been very very busy. The project of our company was outsourced to a big consultant company before I came in. We found that it is not doing well. We have decided to take it back and develop it in-house. The big company losted the contract so it laid off some programmers. One female Indian programmer called us and asked us if we can hire her, We walked her in and gave her an interview. The first question I asked her is: "Do you think you guys have done a great job at XXX company? " Her answer is: " I am not at the position to take responsibity for the whole system, but I can say I have done a perfect job in the subsystem I worked on." I am not satisfied with her answer ( I have the previlige to be picky at our job candidates). I overwhelmed her with a series of questions and some Java quizs. As the interview was ended, she has completely lost her confidence. However, I decided to hire her as a contractor right after she left our company. The reason is simple: We need her expertise. I destroyed her confidence in the interview because I need to show her that she needs to follow my instructions after she joins my team. This is the life. We just play the game according to some rules. The most important thing is we should never lose our hope. You don't know when the opportunities will cater to you. The indian lady is a typical example. She got the offer from a person who bashed her so hard.

    For those who never show off and who cannot tolerate other's showing off, please throw stones at me.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Thanks for sharing! - You looks like more competent and skillful in hiring. -alan01(alan01); 2001-8-19 (#172996@0)
    • Agree! -guest:; 2001-8-19 (#173010@0)
    • I guess you are right. But that needs your great knoledge and experiences. To criticize others, one himself should have his own stance, that is he should be on a higher lever. -pyramid(金字塔); 2001-8-20 {45} (#173297@0)
      I hope one day I will be that kind of person.
      • I think some employers in Canada are too picky but they cannot evaluate people's skill properly. -jabber(jabber); 2001-8-20 {429} (#173868@0)
        I dominate my team and I told my colleages that we just hire good people, and we do not aim at hiring the "best people". In one word, we must be fair in evaluating others... For instance, we don't evaluate job candidates using complicated questions about pointers... We use open questions to test the people---if the correct answer should have 3 entries but the candidate can answer only 2, we don't think he/she is poor.
        • And also as a candidate, I think they care if he could be hired 1000 times than if an interviewer is picky, but if they fell you are picky and then they rejected, they may lost their confidence. So, -pyramid(金字塔); 2001-8-20 {165} (#173877@0)
          Only picky to the person you will hired is the best choise as you did. You need to change your kind attitude to picky just right after you decided you will hire him.
          • Right now, it is desparately hard to get an interview, let alone a job offer. .... -jabber(jabber); 2001-8-20 {262} (#173903@0)
            So the employer has luxury to be picky. However, I don't think the employer needs to spend several weeks in hiring a person. If the employer has no confidence to evaluate a job candidate within 1-2 hour;s interview, it deserves to be fooled by fake resumes.
            • Sorry, in my post it should be they are rejected, they means the candidates. Sorry for making you misunderstood. -pyramid(金字塔); 2001-8-20 (#173916@0)
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