Topic: 关于产后上环 @枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum

枫下家园 / 医药保健 / 关于产后上环 -guest:guest; 2001-2-4 {129} (#24281@0)
我小孩已经三个多月了,按照国内的惯例，不久应该上环了，但我准备几个月后登陆加拿大。请过来人指点以下，我是否应该在国内上好环再赴加？

最好在国内上吧，在这里3个月健康卡才生效，如果不小心，又不是那么快想要第二个，会比较麻烦。 -firefox99(firefox99); 2001-2-4 (#24327@0)
never do it -guest:guest; 2001-2-4 {227} (#24371@0)
1, you soon will probably want a new baby---the removal of it is not so convenient here.

2. even if you want family planning, condoms are a better idea.

3. if you think more deeply, 'shang huan' IS against huamn rights.

yes my mom's friend needed a surgery to take that out of her body. just imagine something you don't really need inside your body and may grow into the muscle! so scary! all other choices are much better. -guest:; 2001-2-11 (#25651@0)

Don't do it. Consider other precautionary measures for now. After you come to Canada, your family doctor will suggest you more options. -rolling(Rollor); 2001-2-4 (#24379@0)
是吗?我一直以为上环在全球都很普遍的呢.由于是剖腹产，所以还是应该小心点好。我是自愿的呀，不存在人权问题。是不是以后要取的话，最好回国取？按说有小孩赴加的绝大多数都是上环的呀，希望有人能谈谈亲身体验。 -guest:guest; 2001-2-7 (#25086@0)

i dont think it is common for people to be back to china for 'qu huan'? -guest:guest; 2001-2-8 {294} (#25116@0)
since u have the intention of removing it in the future, why u "installed" it at 1st place?

take my family for instance, she had similar thoughts like u, but i strongly opposed, she soon
found i was right when she came over here.

like i said, u always have other means for 'bi yun'.
你说的很对，我有惨痛教训 -firefox99(firefox99); 2001-2-9 {333} (#25296@0)
生完半年后，又怀孕了，当时在国内，如果在加国现在这种刚来还没站稳脚跟的情况，也不能要。所以我是带了环过来的，将来准备回国取再换，但你现在有个问题，一般带环后要有2-3月看适应否，否则要取，你看时间是否来的及。每个人的身体情况不同，我试过各种方法，号称国际最流行的，都不适应，所以你最好咨询一下妇科医生，说说你的实际情况，让她给你个建议。

it shouldn't be very expensive for such operation. Here's doctor's credit is more trustable. -guest:; 2001-2-11 (#25652@0)

没有人要求你产后三个月上环，除非你自己想那样做，惯例是几十年前的事，完全没有必要。 -gclinda(linda); 2001-2-7 (#25098@0)
什么？现在加拿大也是这样的避孕措施？？好古老呀！很多女孩子都不合适这样的方式的，出血，月期紊乱等等，都已经先进了呀。。。。。 -guest:乱说; 2001-2-9 (#25373@0)

no, in fact canadian doctors are surprised by chinese ladies' courage. no offense since I know many companies in China force employees to do so. -guest:; 2001-2-11 (#25653@0)

no. birth control is enforced, but inidvidual method is free to choose. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001-2-11 (#25697@0)

my friend told me her company asks everybody who just gave birth to do so. -guest:; 2001-2-11 (#25747@0)

To do exactly 'shang huan'? your friend is not from main land China for sure. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001-2-12 (#25784@0)
I also heard an HongKongness told me a same story. It is wrong. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001-2-12 (#25794@0)

请慎重考虑此事。 -michelle(michelle); 2001-2-11 {382} (#25696@0)
据说那边的医生不会取环，他们不用这种避孕方法。如果有一天你真要取，甚至不幸出现带环怀孕的情况，你非回国不可。我已经放了几年环，虽然不也不准备再生一个孩子，但我仍想在走前把环取了。另外据我当医生的母亲和妹妹说，避孕环长期置于体内对身体不好，即使适应这种避孕方法，也应隔五年取一次，过段时间再放。另外，剖腹产我记得应该是半年后再放环的。个人意见，仅供参考，总之觉得你应该慎重考虑这件事。

这个方法的作用原理就是利用铜离子来杀死精子。你就想想如果整天把一块铜疙瘩含在嘴里是什么滋味？ -diao_david(David Diao); 2001-2-11 (#25700@0)

Maybe some operation to do for ur husband, then u need not to do so. It sounds so horrible. -coffee(coffee); 2001-2-12 (#25760@0)

as i know operation for man is the best way. It's just a minor operation and it's easy to remove it if u want to pregnant again. But most men are not willing to do it. -ely(Ely); 2001-2-12 (#25909@0)

Never heard of this before. Can you tell me more? -rolling(Rollor); 2001-2-12 (#25961@0)

男性结扎手术是也。 -ely(Ely); 2001-2-13 (#25966@0)
参阅 #25820。而且现在中国有很多网站讲这方面的知识，用搜狐什么的搜一下就可以找到了。 -diao_david(David Diao); 2001-2-13 (#25993@0)
I don't know the way David mentioned in #25820, anyway, there are different ways to do this kind of operation..as David said, by searching key word "jie zha" in some chinese search engine, u can get lots of links. -ely(Ely); 2001-2-13 (#26003@0)

so experinced and described vividly -4myself(seeker); 2001-2-12 (#25771@0)
我知道棉酚类的药物有希望能成为男用避孕药，不知道现在研究进行到了那一步，是否已经生产上市 -diao_david(David Diao); 2001-2-12 (#25806@0)

don't try on me.... -wjiang(wjiang); 2001-2-12 (#25814@0)
国内有为男子打避孕针的，据说还不错。我的家庭医生说，加拿大目前还在研究这种方法，现在还不能使用。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001-2-12 (#25818@0)

那个是可复性栓塞吧？用某种胶体把输送管路堵上，需要的时候可以用其他的药品把它再溶开。好像是上海的某个医院最先研究出来的。 -diao_david(David Diao); 2001-2-12 (#25820@0)

那就该是激素类的药物了。我个人对所有激素类的药物心存疑虑，无论临床实验证明它如何的无害。 -diao_david(David Diao); 2001-2-12 (#25824@0)