HEHE, do not take toefl then, maybe you should try GRE.
-lilyba(Sunshine);
2001-11-28(#278579@0)
I think your score is good enough.
-newcomer1(newcomer1);
2001-11-29(#279421@0)
Most of the concern is all about listening comprehension, but total score.
-itmad4u(没劲);
2001-11-29(#279431@0)
Can you understand the movie or TV? I think you should put more emphasis on your basic skills. If you can fully understand what they are talking in Friends, how come you couldn't pass TOEFL?
-zhu(每天都想着LP的猪头);
2001-11-28(#278581@0)
What does "basic skills" mean? vocabulary? listening skill? or anything else? Could you give some advice about how to improve the listening skill?
-guestlt(lt);
2001-11-28{79}(#278621@0)
BTW, I love "Friends". But I can't understand them except I saw the caption.
The best way is to watch TV, as someonas has mentioned. And turn the caption off and listen. If you have caption, your ear filter out the English most of the time leaving just the laughing sound. pretty annoying.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2001-11-28(#278624@0)
Thank you. I'll try. But I'll be very regretful that I can't understand all of their talking in "Friends".
-guestlt(lt);
2001-11-28(#278631@0)
But I think you should record it and replay if you don't quite understand. And finally see the caption if you still don't understand.
-zhu(每天都想着LP的猪头);
2001-11-28(#278665@0)
That make sense. Anyhow, If you don't improve your listening/speaking skills, you can't survive in canada even you have strong reading ability.
-4032778072(＄￡￥西方失败);
2001-11-28(#278675@0)
No, don't do that. You have to do quantity, not quality. It doesn't matter you miss it, just keep watching other shows...。。。
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2001-11-28(#278784@0)
another reason is if you record and play it again and again, you will get bored. just keep watching...
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2001-11-28(#278787@0)
But sometime I can't understand the same sentence again and again. In the record way, I do know what they are talking next time. So if you have the better way?
-zhu(每天都想着LP的猪头);
2001-11-28(#278795@0)
If you do it this way, you are restricting yourself.. You have to get exposed, doing it in quantity. Just like reading, it doesn't matter in a sentense you have one or twos that you don't understand.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2001-11-28(#278799@0)
But sometimes not only 2, 3 sentences but the whole show.
-zhu(每天都想着LP的猪头);
2001-11-28(#278803@0)
then watch another show... watch another movie... and try to understand that movie..
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2001-11-28(#278805@0)
listening is not like Voca, you memorize one, you know one. Listening is like a level. Your listening skill will go up overall, not just by understanding one sentense.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2001-11-28{234}(#278802@0)
For example, you can understand someone with American acent but you may not understand the same sentense that with Autralian acent. So you have to do large quantity of listening...don't waste time on record, rewind, search, playback.
That's the way that I have been trying.
-alan01(alan01);
2001-11-28(#279187@0)
I just mean you don't have to rush to the test. Pick up a native and let him do the TOEFL. I am sure he would get high score in listening even he doesn't know the TOEFL before.
-zhu(每天都想着LP的猪头);
2001-11-28{76}(#278671@0)
So the most important is the level of your listening not the skills of test.
As one mentioned above, find chance to talk with native English speaker by experiencing Canadian life such as go banking, go shopping, go to library etc...
-alan01(alan01);
2001-11-28(#279207@0)
I know all that you said, but I just could not make it. What if I can not pass TOEFL? Is there any university I can go into with that score?
-vividmei(vividmei);
2001-11-28(#278823@0)
I understanded what they talked about in TOEFL test indeed. And have no problem of understanding TV, movie , news. Somehow I do have trouble in concentrating during the tes. I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
-vividmei(vividmei);
2001-11-28(#278830@0)
Most Xing Dong Fang's materials are too old and too easy. They give you a misunderstanding of yourself. I used them the first time and got a poor score. The second time I used the official publication from ETS and
-poohbear(nothing);
2001-11-28{36}(#278891@0)
got 24 scores more (computer based).
How to get these material from ETS?
-bigsquirrel(小松鼠);
2001-11-28(#278903@0)
I'd like to know, too.
-guestlt(lt);
2001-11-28(#278938@0)
Buy. Please check www.toefl.org (TOEFL test preparation kit). If you're interested and in Vancouver, I would like to sell mine at $40 (canadian $).
-poohbear(nothing);
2001-11-28{30}(#279373@0)
My email is: h_qu@hotmail.com.
can you just send to all of ue, please do not ask for money
-newcomer1(newcomer1);
2001-11-29(#279424@0)
You bet.
-poohbear(nothing);
2001-11-29(#279483@0)
do not stay at home all the time, go arround, try to listen to what native guys say. Watch TV without the caption. 2 months later you will got at least 23.
-lemondy(麋鹿为贷款消得人憔悴);
2001-11-29(#279440@0)