Topic: 我越来越糊涂了! 什么是成熟?成熟有哪些标志? 哪位DX可以给个CHECK LIST? @枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum

枫下沙龙 / 谈天说地 / 我越来越糊涂了! 什么是成熟?成熟有哪些标志? 哪位DX可以给个CHECK LIST? -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-10 (#329350@0)

不单单用自己的角度考虑问题。 -cocotea(可可茶养兔子); 2002-1-10 (#329366@0)

这么多意见里面，我最喜欢这个。:-) -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-10 (#329536@0)

不同意.这叫事故,圆滑. -mildkiller(爱,已成往事); 2002-1-10 (#329539@0)

怎么会？做什么事不单单用自己的角度，多从几方面想想，多为别人想想，处理起问题会比较理智。应该是成熟的表现。 -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-10 (#329542@0)

同意！ ------- 我非常喜欢的这篇"成熟女人"（转帖），希望正是你在寻找的CHECKLIST。：） ------- “ 成熟的女人最有魅力。大街上让人眼睛一亮的女人到处都是,但可求而难遇的是端庄大方,修养成熟的女性” -foam(foam); 2002-1-10 {1782} (#329772@0)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛成熟的女人最有魅力。大街上让人眼睛一亮的女人到处都是,但可求而难遇的是端庄大方,修养成熟的女性。

成熟的女人真正的知道美丽,并能正确的使自己美丽.她们的成熟风韵, 是那些看来美丽的少女所不能拥有的! 这时候的女人出现在男人面前, 粗描淡画也比那些小女孩仿潮流的浓妆艳抹更具美丽的分量!

和成熟的女人在一起, 男人们会少了许多的顾虑,少了几许的操心,不用去担心,不用去操劳.他们会感受到来自对方的关怀

　　成熟的女人是现实的。能面对和接受现实,并主动去适应环境。对自己,对围的事物能做出客观的认识和评价。她们也有高于现实的理想,但决不会沉缅于不切实际的幻想和奢望之中。

　　成熟的女人是乐观的。她们也会有悲,忧,愁,怒,但一般不会长久,她们能很快调整自己的情绪。在与人交往中既不妄自尊大,矫柔造作,也不会退缩畏惧。对无法得到的东西不过于贪求,能在允许的范围内得到的满足也不会轻易放弃。

　　成熟的女人善解人意。善良,温柔,具有同情心和正义感,能够在人群中感受爱,接受爱,也能给予他人爱。能接纳自己,也使别人接受自己。

　　成熟的女人彬彬有礼。她们知书达礼,能适度表达和控制自己的情绪,不在大庭广众下失态。她是一个好听众,可以敏锐地感受对方的情绪,体察对方的苦恼。她有雅量赞美别人,同时也能宽容别人的缺点。喜不狂,忧不绝,胜不骄,败不馁,谦而不卑。

　　成熟的女人举止适度,言谈平静。站立时姿势优美,走路时步态稳键,用餐时温文而雅,坐下时神态安祥,谈话时平静温和。有很好的道德修养,不谈与事实不相符的事,不高谈阔论固执己见,不一味表现自己。

　　成熟的女人服饰得体,打扮适宜。对服饰的选择有独到的见解,选择服装既不浮华也不愚昧,从来不追逐潮流,不在乎豪华或名牌,崇尚服饰与人的完美合谐,追求一种淡泊,宁静,高雅的意境。她们根据自己的个性,气质,经济条件挑选或制作自己的服装,穿出一种与自己身份素质相符合的特色。

　　成熟的女人是一种魅力。成熟的女人是一道风景线,是天高气爽的秋,是雨后跃出的彩虹,是点染春天的绿草原,是上帝安排女人赐予生活的一束鲜花,让人心旷神怡,让生活充满色彩。

男士们, 别让这样的女人从身边溜走。更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

oooops, sounds like a Bible for girls! 不累吗？be yourself, girl! -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329777@0)

BIBLE累？对，那只是一个理想境界罢了.作用就是, 有了目标,才不会迷茫. 但成熟了, 就意味着努力去提高,不会觉得累; 做不到, 也不会不能释怀. ：）另, 小声问一句, 听你的昵名, 你的肚子会不会太累啦? ：） -foam(foam); 2002-1-10 (#329812@0)

其实本人最擅长的是“吃喝拉睡”，“酒囊饭袋”好象比较文雅一点 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329835@0)

我记得是五样来着，到你这里怎么少了一样？你没有那样舒服吗？ -tristan(风亦雪@雪地里); 2002-1-10 (#330024@0)

Hey, This's nice that there is someone cares about your stomach........There is a saying.......U know...:-) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329819@0)

不说不觉得，一说才知道，真饿了！you know, in many ways.... -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329840@0)

ho ho ho....ok ok...:-)))))) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329854@0)

这个标准应该是有了这种人而归纳出来的，如果为了想作淑女而去学奥代丽赫本，难免会有做作和东施效频的感觉。 -yunyan(云嫣); 2002-1-10 {130} (#330064@0)
成熟、端庄并不是你照着一个标准就能学到的，而是由人的内在散发出来的气质，这是一个人所受的教育、经历、环境影响等众多方面的综合反映。

惨了，路还长着呢。 -lilyba(Sunshine); 2002-1-10 (#329796@0)

别担心, 小妹妹：）真成熟, 就是既要会激励自己, 有要会开解自己！所以,慢慢来! 不要担心啦! -foam(foam); 2002-1-10 (#329821@0)

Typical Mid-class women?? Don't feel charactor... -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329811@0)

还有这一篇 ------ 让我不由揽镜自问, 我是不是正有此发展苗头？！ -------- “每个女人都会变成主妇？”（转） -foam(foam); 2002-1-10 {1535} (#329776@0)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛不知不觉中，结婚已五年了。虽然我也明白，多么伟大的爱情，到了最后，都不外乎好好过日子。可在这漫长的日子里，我所排斥但却正在滋长的平庸正落到自己身上。不知是不是每个女人最终都会如此？

　　我有一个快乐的家庭，我以为这样就可以骄傲了。

　　可是———

　　一天晚饭后，我和老公、儿子到文化宫溜弯儿，一家人其乐融融地开车往回走，到了小区，想起买西瓜。

　　走下车，直觉感到有目光在打量我。不管她，径直走向瓜摊。

　　“西瓜怎么卖？”“一块钱三斤。”“这个瓜怎么样？”我抱起一个大个的。“不错不错。”“甜不甜哪？”“保证甜，不甜不要钱。”……

　　在我一句一句与瓜贩讨价还价时，总感到背后的目光有点异样。转过身，我想看看是何许人也。

　　昏黄的路灯下，亭亭玉立着一位“标准美眉”，长发梳成两条辫子，浅蓝色纱质印花连衣裙在晚风中轻舞，看不清五官却强烈地感觉到那份清纯、那份美好，正是我喜欢，或者说是大家普遍都喜欢的那种女孩。但，她的眼神……

　　是的，那眼神，是我十八九岁时看中年妇女与菜贩讨价还价时流露出的不屑、不满、甚至对菜贩的同情。

　　霎时间，我无语。

　　默默地付钱，上车，静坐着，想像着自己此时的形象，彼时的心情。沉思良久，感慨至深。

　　人可以千金散尽，却留不住一丝过去。仅仅几分钟时间，我的幸福感好像被冲走了。她那年轻的眼睛和眼神，令我感到自卑。透过那双眼睛，映射着我一天天老去的面孔，一天天老去的心。在忙碌的日子里，人多少都会有些健忘。随着时间的推移，我忘了自己也曾像她一样警告自己，千万不要变得“市井”，千万不能变成“俗妇”。可我终究还是忘了，变了。

　　我为自己感到心痛。青春的伤逝绵延在心底，挥之不去。独自背过身，我怆然泪下。

　　时间仍似箭一样飞逝，而我仍一天天忘却，一天天老去。更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

严重反对！ -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329779@0)

me too. -lilyba(Sunshine); 2002-1-10 (#329793@0)

see #329641 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329795@0)

sorry my mistake, it should be #329614 一种不再需要对别人察颜观色的从容 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329816@0)

:-((((((( Don't like. -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329810@0)

谁要能在你这个帖子下跟帖，说自己已经如何如何成熟了，这就是不成熟的表现。（是不是有点道可道非常道的味道？） -rollor(Rollor); 2002-1-10 (#329369@0)

嘿嘿,本来想说,你一说,我就不能说了...咳咳...(装大尾巴狼中....) -mildkiller(爱,已成往事); 2002-1-10 (#329378@0)

忍，仁，韧 -heian(㊣黑暗天使); 2002-1-10 (#329370@0)

:-))) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 {32} (#329380@0)
Related your last post. Haa haa!
Your answer is EXCELLENT!...........Think about it over again...:-) Remember those people I considered unmature are just reverse of your answer! -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329408@0)
好! 不过请允许我加个"能"字! "忍，仁，韧，能"! -new_honda(骑驴找马); 2002-1-10 (#329449@0)
等练成忍者神龟时可能都达不到要求。 -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-10 (#329538@0)

An independent thinker...and....polite, with a good manner -dropoutinmiami(东北的饺子); 2002-1-10 (#329376@0)
没有什么标准，一般都是批评和自我批评，过关了后就一致认为谁谁谁成熟了。：-） -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2002-1-10 (#329377@0)
能问这种问题的人。 -eglington(eglington); 2002-1-10 (#329382@0)

what a great MP! -olivetree(Olive Tree); 2002-1-10 (#329391@0)

豁达 -lilyba(Sunshine); 2002-1-10 (#329384@0)
只要追求真善美，成熟不成熟都很好。不成熟－蠢蠢欲动，挑战一切，活力四射，不成熟本身就是一个未知的世界，充满可怕的力量。成熟－不以物喜，不以己悲，有目标，有力量，有经验。 -lilyba(Sunshine); 2002-1-10 (#329389@0)

WOW! -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329392@0)
Would you mind if I don't agree with you? :) 蠢蠢欲动，挑战一切，活力四射doesn't always mean 不成熟, and 不以物喜，不以己悲，有目标，有力量，有经验 doesn't always mean 成熟. what do you think? I think 成熟 is #326380 -dropoutinmiami(东北的饺子); 2002-1-10 (#329393@0)

不介意. 成熟也没有统一标准，百花齐放，百家争鸣。个人的追求也不尽相同。 -lilyba(Sunshine); 2002-1-10 (#329395@0)

you are right. :) I really want to encourage people to have some basic attributes of being an adult, which are .... -dropoutinmiami(东北的饺子); 2002-1-10 {116} (#329402@0)
"politeness, good manner, respect to the other people and treating the others the way you want to be treated.. *_*

成熟… 我说的是严于律己，你强调的是宽以待人。一个是内在修养，一个是外在表现，不矛盾。 -lilyba(Sunshine); 2002-1-10 (#329405@0)

成熟 IS 酒囊饭袋? :-) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329398@0)

haha...I am sure "酒囊饭袋" will be very happy to hear that.:) -dropoutinmiami(东北的饺子); 2002-1-10 (#329412@0)

you can be pretty sure about that! ;-) -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329649@0)

从某种程度上，yes! ; ) -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329654@0)

I know i am that..... -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329700@0)

成熟就是酒囊和饭袋嘛！ -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329706@0)

Well, to be totally honest to you, 酒囊饭袋最不想要的，就是成熟！ -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329663@0)

Coz if u r mature, then u will not be free to do crazy things right? :-) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329699@0)

crazy things like what? -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329709@0)

u tell me, naughty! -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329744@0)

看了#326380之后，我觉得身边冷风阵阵，手脚冰冷。如果那才算成熟，我一辈子也不要成熟。 -fionah(Fiona); 2002-1-10 (#329546@0)
I am here. -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329618@0)

听着象真善忍 -sillyboy(silly); 2002-1-10 (#329394@0)

呵呵. 一字千金。 -lilyba(Sunshine); 2002-1-10 (#329399@0)

说的太好了！ -clovertree(一天到晚游泳的鱼); 2002-1-10 (#329396@0)
我也赞同，各有各的优点和长处！ -tristan(风亦雪@起个大早); 2002-1-11 (#330303@0)

How about Sexual Mature? .....Since nobody mentioned it yet. :-) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329411@0)

good point. What is it? I am still young and naive. Could you tell me a little more? -zhu(猪头，欲哭无泪); 2002-1-10 (#329497@0)

这个话题比较有趣！ -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329666@0)
up up. -gudo(gudo); 2002-1-10 (#329669@0)
up again. -gudo(gudo); 2002-1-10 (#329677@0)

瞧你up的怪难受的，为何不先来几句？ -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329680@0)

Would you make a movement at first? -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329670@0)

well, 1st, it doesn't related with age.......sometime.... 2nd. somehow it's a perons's selfconfidence with his/her own sexual attraction..... -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329703@0)

here we go, 有点“引蛇出洞”的意思嘛。。。 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329712@0)

Where is snake? U? -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329727@0)
:-( regret...... -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329728@0)

why? there is nothing to regret for. something about snake got to be very lovely somehow. Hmmmm, it's a creature setting off other creature's beauty, not bad! -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329733@0)

3, One knows it is regardless of size, length, styles, and times.... -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329739@0)

about this point. -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 {9} (#329742@0)
not sure!

well, quote a phrase from a movie -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 {52} (#329746@0)
"What band is your favourite?"

"hard and wet"

I thought it's: Rock and Roll???? No? -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329750@0)
Well, just kidding! my point is that cooperation of two and unfading discovery on each other matter the most -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329751@0)

I am kidding also......and I know your point. -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329766@0)

4. and knows it is a given-gift for celerbrate being alive as human -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329743@0)

How many Chinese people think this way? even in young generation? 20%? or less? -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329748@0)

don't know, at least there are many topies about sex and life are raising on the Chinese web site nowadays -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329759@0)
5. and knows there is nothing that one can't talk about with his/her partner -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329768@0)

6. and knows there is nothing one can't do about it if they both are comfortable. -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329786@0)

没有响应，蛇该归洞了。 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329800@0)

Feel lonely now? Coz u r TOO right! :-)) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329813@0)

How do you think about -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 {15} (#329826@0)
爱与霸占？

Haaaa......Well, It could be funny to have both feelings.....but if u r confident about someone's love about yourself, Where is 霸占 anyway? -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 {82} (#329839@0)
seriously answer here.......If I am joking,.I may answer different way. :-))))))))

how I think about it -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 {40} (#329849@0)
occupying is the absolute killer of love

Can u tell more? We may have different points here. -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329852@0)

go ahead please -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329855@0)

Somehow Love has to related with occupying which mean: if someone love you, she/he (r u a guy? ^o^ ) will hope (or ask, or suggest whatever word u use) you wouldn't love another person.... -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 {532} (#329868@0)
I am not talking about you can't love your parents etc ok? . :-) That's very natural and understanding......

Also, different people may have different understanding about occupying......A, U will always be with her/him...B: always know where u r, what u r doing, what u r thinking......C. (which is the terrible type, :-) ) want to know what u r thinking.....and change your mind to his/hers all the time.....
D, when somebody(A) feel she/he owes somebody(B), A would lost her/his respect on B,even with his/her own attention.

Sorry last sentense: WITHOUT! :-) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329873@0)

And one more thing: It's women's nature to seek protect and company and caring etc more than men! -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 {50} (#329870@0)
That's how u may say: Man is man! Woman is woman!

Yiiiiiiiiii??? -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329979@0)

Ops, sorry, I got a call just now.... Talking about ownership and love, I would say -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 {961} (#330029@0)
your "D" would be the factor causing love to die.

When love is there, spontaneously it is exclusive. This unique feeling somehow raises up till one sets it as a trademark - If you love me, don't you dare loving anyone else - which, u know, intends to control the other.

but none can control other's feeling, neither oneself's.

To love, is to appreciate how the other's existence riches one's life. One certainly has love, this passpart, to share something more about the other more than anyone else. But again, love doesn't give one rights stopping the other's growing and changing.

as you mentioned ealier, "even without her/his attention", it reaches an absolute opposite intention, respection has lost, love has been killed.

有言道：“情深不寿，强极则辱。谦谦君子，温润如玉。” I don't mean it can apply to every single case. However, it is really important to leave some space for each other to breathe.

Don't you think so?

See, when I am answering you, I feel I am not so sure about my current answers. coz I know maybe later, I will learn more from like and people also, then I may change. -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 {1208} (#330087@0)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛I like to keep myself space: that I may learn more! for many things. Well, I disagree with you. at least u r too negative, or maybe U have been acting as a ESCAPER? :-) ......I would not choose "trademark" and "dare" , but more like something both side agree and enjoy, but maybe don't need to say it on mouth even.

If both sides are mature, and confident to themselves and each other. why they have to ask another side not escape?
or one side take controlling? Love or relationship is more about sharing......

Talking about control feelings, I have been there. It could be so unhappy and not real me.

Talking about growing and changing, yes, it happen all the time, to almost everybody. I prefer the way like two grow up and learn together (not exactly, but somehow,). That would be great! :-)

Yes, respection is very important in a love. otherwise, it could be so exciting, but doesn't last long, like a big short file.

Sounds u r majored in Chinese? r u? u have good literature background do u? well, I read more foreign novels than chinese. :-)

Space is important. but there is one thing I am not sure about myself even: to be nice and slow is good. but how about tempture?更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

well, company? yes. protection? I doubt it. -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 {204} (#330060@0)
especially for you.

We all know, nothing is secure, particularly for love.

Speaking of a relationship, I lean to focus on building trust and respection. Love, I leave it for nature to take care of.

:-) Sounds like u have even more confidence on me than myself. That's interesting, and nice to hear. -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 {328} (#330068@0)
But leave it for nature? oh really? I mean I give up sometimes when I know I should....but don't u think, u should fight with life somehow also........

For eg: there is difficulties in a relationship in a special stage, let's say financial problem. Will u just walk away? or u will stay with her to fight it over? I will.

i think it can't be included in mature, how do you define sexual mature and immature? -killer(流血五步伏尸二人); 2002-1-10 (#329684@0)

性成熟与否是一个人成熟与否的重要标致。 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329688@0)
Of coz it should be included.......Like u can saperated soul and fresh. :-) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329705@0)

sorry Can NOT! :-) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329713@0)

see? that's why I was wondering......doesn't sound like you -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329716@0)

^o^, Hey, sounds u really know me! :-))))) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329726@0)

有点红颜知己的味道。。。。 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329802@0)

ooooops....never consider myself or been considered as 红颜.......^o^ -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329814@0)

on the contrary, it should be a union of soul and flesh -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329714@0)

Correct. -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 {48} (#329747@0)
Not surprised to see your similiar opinions. :-)

奇怪，这贴不是我发的呀？sailor，这是怎么回事呀？ -killer(流血五步伏尸二人); 2002-1-10 (#330097@0)

drunker(酒囊饭袋) : That's ok. -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-11 (#330507@0)
How about this: a person who understand that his/her partner needs to feel to be needed? (a sentense said by a old friend long time ago. ) -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-11 (#330511@0)

成熟从某种意义上讲就是默然,在也不会为明天见到那个她该如何搭话而整夜不眠,再也不会为中国队的球赛而激动,再也不会有得到压岁钱的惊喜. -zhu(猪头，欲哭无泪); 2002-1-10 (#329495@0)

不同意.那叫迟钝,麻木,冷漠,自闭,脑白质切除患者.....不是成熟. -mildkiller(爱,已成往事); 2002-1-10 (#329509@0)
那叫哀莫大过于心死。 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329622@0)

也即是说 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 {145} (#329647@0)
成熟从某种意义上讲就是只要活着，就不会默然---无论拥有多少苍桑经历，仍会为明天见到那个她而兴奋, 仍会为中国队的球赛而激动, 仍会有得到压岁钱的惊喜。

余秋雨：并不陡峭的高度。 -aibei(在土一方); 2002-1-10 (#329505@0)
成熟就是不会参加这种不成熟得讨论，:-) -macsym(日进斗斤); 2002-1-10 (#329553@0)

那叫麻木不仁。 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329634@0)

抢着付钱 -weixia(eat_watermelon); 2002-1-10 (#329555@0)

那叫假充大头。 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329635@0)

成熟是一种明亮而不刺眼的光辉，一种圆润而不腻耳的音响，一种不再需要对别人察颜观色的从容，一种终于停止向周围申诉求告的大气，一种不理会哄闹的微笑，一种洗刷了偏激的淡漠，一种无须声张的厚实，一种并不陡峭的高度。 -tianqi21(tian); 2002-1-10 {68} (#329614@0)
勃郁的豪情发过了酵，尖利的山风收住了劲，湍急的细流汇成了湖，结果－－

颇有点道家的味道, 清风拂山岗,明月照大江. -whatever(漂流的瓶子); 2002-1-10 (#329641@0)

摘自余秋雨的苏东坡突围 -tianqi21(tian); 2002-1-10 (#329652@0)
禅宗曰：饥来吃饭倦来眠。诗旨曰：眼前景致口头语。盖极高寓于极平，至难出于至易；有意者反远，无心者自近也。 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329674@0)

I LOVE IT! -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329707@0)

晕晕晕!! 这个问题20多年前就开始问自己....答案是: -aabbcc(abc); 2002-1-10 {70} (#329640@0)
无解....多年前就放弃了这个想了多年的"问题".....最后觉得我"成熟"了.
1. 和女朋友/老婆出门可以对其他貌美女子视而不见。2. 和女朋友/老婆出门注视其他貌美女子良久而不被女朋友/老婆发现。 -violent_panda(暴力大熊猫); 2002-1-10 (#329646@0)

当爱和婚姻成为霸占的代名词时，MD男的女的都不能望！ -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329809@0)

成熟是一个过程，永远不会是结果。 -lilyba(Sunshine); 2002-1-10 (#329653@0)

成熟，嘻嘻，是知道什么都可以是玩笑 - 只要你愿意。。。 -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-10 (#329660@0)

as long as you know 只要你愿意 -lilyba(Sunshine); 2002-1-10 (#329662@0)
Heavy as Mountain......Light as feather. -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329710@0)

成熟的标志就是抛出一个讨论的话题，在引来一片口水后得到一堆人的一致意见：你成熟了。 -egmy(ck); 2002-1-10 (#329655@0)
Add one point - respect, respect yourself and others. -alan01(alan01); 2002-1-10 (#329837@0)

true! -babyface(Tracy); 2002-1-10 (#329853@0)

熟透的果子容易烂掉；保持一点青涩，也不坏。纯真比成熟更可贵。 -laow(老王); 2002-1-11 (#330140@0)

You got it! -drunker(酒囊饭袋); 2002-1-11 (#330141@0)
成熟后的天真更可贵。 -witch619(不识人间烟火); 2002-1-11 (#330243@0)

你这样岂不成了不嫩装嫩或者老顽童了？；） -tristan(风亦雪@起个大早); 2002-1-11 (#330305@0)

嫩是不懂世事，成熟后的天真是饱经风霜后仍对生活充满着渴望，受经挫折后仍然不灭的那种热情，你说可贵不？ -witch619(不识人间烟火); 2002-1-11 (#330333@0)

你的逻辑少一环定义，就是你需要定义：不成熟=对生活充满渴望和不灭的热情。你的话是对的，只是在这里讨论的逻辑衔接有问题！ -tristan(风亦雪@起个大早); 2002-1-11 (#330343@0)

成熟的人从不问：什么是成熟？成熟的标志是什么？hohoooooo -susse(不鲜JJ); 2002-1-11 (#330149@0)
那人成熟的几个阶段性标志：（严肃的加搞笑的） -buhello(game ur life); 2002-1-11 {834} (#330392@0)
1 不怕比自己大的孩子欺负了，能反打他了。
2 哥们儿第一位。
3 开始注意女孩子了。
4 有了第一次性纪录。
5 工作了。
6 开始注意女人了。
7 开始注意成家的女人了。
8 有固定女友了。
9 和女友同居了。
10 想向女友求婚了。
11 结婚了。（不一定和女友）
（另：11 永远不想结婚了。12 创业了。 13 偶尔想结婚。彻底成熟了。）
12 开始想养家的事了。
下面有两种继续：
---- 继续1：13 计划要小孩了。
14 有小孩了。
15 想孝敬老人了。
16 小孩工作了。彻底成熟了。
---- 继续2：13 开始想其他女人了。
14 想离婚了
15 离婚了
分支1：
------- 转另：11
分支2：
------- 转9（循环，break 是到另：11）
分支3：
16 创业了。
17 和前妻再婚。
18 转继续1之13-16。

抛砖引玉和砖，请大家补充，指正！！

对不起，题目是“男人的。。。”。部分适用于女人。：-） -buhello(game ur life); 2002-1-11 (#330396@0)