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  • 枫下沙龙 / 谈天说地 / Jabber老兄，真想知道你的英语学习经历和经验。看你文章就象看Toronto Star的column，金山词霸还必须开着，真羡慕鸭！ -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-18 (#34263@0)
    • 有点夸张吧.是不错,但是还有需要提高的地方,比如说太中文化的语式,语句太短,一句话分两句讲,有些词的用法太牵强,象是从中文直译过来的.整体来说给我一种捆绑的感觉,不生动. 恕我冒昧,大家共同提高. -guest:图古　; 2001-3-18 (#34299@0)
      • 我能有jabber水平的一半就满足了！ -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-18 (#34302@0)
      • Man, how could you take Egg's flatterings serious? -jabber(jabber); 2001-3-19 {965} (#34602@0)
        Indeed, my English writing is fraught with defects. I can summarize them as follows: 1) There are a lot of artificial sentences. Syntatically, ther are correct. But native English writers do not organize the sentences in the way I do. 2) There are a lot of minors, such as incorrect usage of verb phrases. The most recent example is I misused the verbal phrase " lay off". As I suggested Ji-Ang lay off his leader, I put it into the form " lay off her". This is a typical grammer mistake. ( I have already corrected it into "lay her off").

        Frankly speaking, my writing is good enough because I can get myself across. Most of my postings in this forum are finished within a very short time and I have not spent any time refining them. In no case can I improve my writing to the extent that the articles in the Star are presented to its reader.

        By the way, I have ever seen two persons' English postings in this forum, which are more descent than mine.
      • Jabber's English could be perfect if he was a single and could go out with a native speaker for, say, six months. Oh, well, too bad. -winterblue(winterblue); 2001-3-19 {368} (#34730@0)
        You can never get to be perfect in life. Still I bet he can come very close to speaking and writing perfect English, if he keeps doing what he is doing now. You may call that "learning it the hard way". He has this incredibly positive attitude and he has the patience. I find those the two most important things, in English learning or in other aspects of our lives.
        • You hit the point! -jabber(jabber); 2001-3-20 {297} (#34902@0)
          Strategically, we have to improve our English so as to survive in this society. Tactically, we have to be as patient as we can.

          Unfortunately, most of us are no longer teenagers so we have very few opportunities to mix up with those native English speakers. Even so, we have to try our best.
    • 我好象在哪里看到 Jabber 是女的，并且是外语专业的，不知对否 :-) -uid(miracle); 2001-3-18 (#34349@0)
      • 呵呵，您的记性真好，连梦中的事都记得。 -hearts(hearts); 2001-3-18 (#34351@0)
        • 就算是做梦了， 我还好象在哪里看到一篇文章说某人来自四川，是IT姐妹榜样云云，是夸一个署名Jabber的人 -uid(miracle); 2001-3-18 (#34354@0)
          • 真~~~~~的~~~~~~~！？？？ -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-18 (#34356@0)
            • 没错！！我也记得Jabber是JJ，而不是GG。要知道我对JabberJJ的景仰再就象涛涛江水了。不光是因为英语，更重要的是她是个热心的乐于助人的客观面世的IT技术多面的高——嗷——手！ -iamfish(笨笨鱼); 2001-3-19 (#34761@0)
              • Dear Gentlefish, I think I can be counted as a qualified programmer at most. -jabber(jabber); 2001-3-20 {269} (#34908@0)
                Though some people esteem themselves as IT-experts, there are not as many as we think. My conclusion is simple: experts won't come in this forum. If you are interested, you may visit www.is4u.net and you can see a lot of experts fight against each other fiercely.
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