Topic: MCSE,MCSD又如何,微软的认证在这里没太大用了 @枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum

不知要说多少遍, 证书仅仅是一张纸而已.关键是如何说服用人单位,让人家相信只花一块钱, 你可以帮他干出十块钱的活儿. 证书有什么用? 擦屁股还嫌硬. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001-3-19 (#34757@0)

小时候没有受过良好的教育，毛片儿没怎么玩过，不知道这些硬纸做毛片儿行不行。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001-3-19 (#34825@0)

小时候还算受过良好的教育, 但一直到二十几岁了才看了毛片.哎..乡下的教育就是不行...... -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001-3-19 (#34864@0)

此毛片非彼毛片也。我只知道北方的小孩子常玩，就是一张硬纸片，上边一点如来佛、阿童木、变形兽什么的。两人先比大小，大的先拍，拍翻过来就赢了。有没有行家给讲讲，俺也没玩过。 -diao_david(LoveBeer); 2001-3-19 (#34871@0)

讲得很地道呀，怎么没玩儿过？记得一大张要裁成36张，或者更多。最初的时候如来佛是最大的，No.1，后来毛片界机构臃肿，如来佛排到第三世界去了。 -bingle(bingle); 2001-3-20 (#34937@0)

光会说有什么用，老外凭什么相信你，没有证书就没有入门证，老外连机会都不会给你，更听不到你的长篇大论！ -guest:心; 2001-3-19 (#34812@0)

证书说有用也有用,说无用也无用,入门根本不是凭证书,不要自己拿不到面试的机会就认为老外一定要看本地经验.我是一张证书都没有,offer都拿几个. -wins(wins); 2001-3-19 (#34824@0)

在提高自己业务水平的同时, 以考证书作为努力的方向是对的. 有了证书就觉得了不起, 一时没有工作就怀才不遇, 怨天尤人就不对了. 这有一个市场的需求问题和如何包装推销自己的过程. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001-3-19 (#34835@0)

汤同志也没有别的意思，我觉得他也是在把自己的经验和感受同大家share，并希望能对别人有所帮助。 -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-20 (#35180@0)
If you could got so many offers, you won't give so much complaint now. -wins(wins); 2001-3-20 (#35182@0)
钉子谁没碰过？牢骚谁不会发？每个人都有不如意的时候。看你如何面对了。就在半个小时前，我老板开了个会，给几乎每个人发了一封包装精美，热情洋溢的信。 -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001-3-20 {178} (#35185@0)
公司不景气，要裁员。我的饭碗到四月六号就没了。公司除老板外只留下一个擦屁股的。所有人走人。

我难道要去跳楼？

有句话怎么说来着？面包还会有的，一切都还再会有的。

我不发愁。

I am so sorry to hear this. Take good care of yourself, and Good Luck! -bloor(bloor); 2001-3-20 (#35186@0)
Sorry about that. For your confidence and work experience, I though you will find another job sooner or later. Wish u luck. -wins(wins); 2001-3-20 (#35190@0)
Sorry to hear that. But never mind, I think you are strong both technically and mentally. You will find a better job soon. Good luck!! -daqiao(Bill); 2001-3-20 (#35195@0)
Hope you bring us good news soon. Good luck. -albxu(Yukon); 2001-3-20 (#35218@0)
I am very sorry to hear about that. But I think you will be able to take it easily and find a better one very quickly. Just want to remind you that you are not alone. You have so many friends here. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001-3-20 (#35226@0)
Sorry to hear that news. Take it easy man, you'll be get a better one soon, that's for sure. And do you remember that I wanna challange you basketball. NOw spring is here, time to play! -yellow(yellow); 2001-3-20 (#35230@0)
趁机给自己放个小假，修整一下，然后再战江湖。 -bingle(bingle); 2001-3-20 (#35235@0)
汤兄, 一方面为你惋惜,一方面为你高兴,也许今天就是你辉煌未来的起点! -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-20 (#35283@0)

Thanks guys. Althought I don't need those comfort at all, you guys' concern has been really appreciated. Don't worry about me. I know how to face these hard time. Mmnnn.. Maybe it is not hard time for me at all. -wonton_soup(Wonton Soup); 2001-3-20 {490} (#35316@0)
I should be grateful to take a little vocation while I am still eligible for the EI.

I am not worry about a just-for-making-a-living job at all. I am worry about what kind of job I should apply for next. I am tired of being a coder debugging all the time already. I would like to be a high level software architect but I know I am not eligible for that kind of position yet. If somebody can show me which school provide the best software engineering course, you are doing me a big favor.