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  • 相约北美 / 移民留学 / 大家看看现在找工有多难！ -hank(hank); 2002-2-4 {1458} (#358319@0)
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Job Title: Senior Oracle 7/8/8i developer, want a job to make a living. (low pay is ok!)
    Postdate: February, 4 2002
    Author: jim_yj@hotmail.com
    Newsgroup: ont.jobs

    Hi,

    I am a senior Oracle developer, my skills and experience include:
    . 5 years of experience in Oracle 7/8/8i design, development and
    maintain.
    . Strong experience of using PL/SQL to develop and maintain Oracle
    components, includes triggers, stored procedures, packages and
    objects.
    . Strong experience of using Java to develop and maintain stored
    procedures and triggers.
    . Strong experience with embedded SQL, SQLJ, Pro*C and OCI
    programming.
    . Strong experience with RDMBS development, ODBC, JDBC, ADO and OLEDB.
    . Strong experience with Oracle development utilities, includes
    SQL*Plus, SQL*Forms, SQL*Reports, Pro*C and SQLJ.
    . Strong experience with C/C++, Java, Unix script, Visual C++,
    Visual Basic, ASP/JSP.
    . Team player, quick learner, work hard, enjoy challenge, self start.

    I have been Toronto for 7 months. But I didn't find a IT job. Do you
    have any position for me? I don't expect high income, I just want to
    make a living. So you can pay me as a labour, but I can do as more as
    possible to pay back you.

    If you are interested in my skills, could you give me a response. You
    may send an e-mail to jim_yj@hotmail.com.
    I am looking forward to a favourable response. Thank you for your kind
    consideration.

    Yours Sincerely,
    Jim Yang更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 老外可没学过排比句...改改这个不象resume不象letter的东东先 -ra95(C&C); 2002-2-4 (#358326@0)
    • It's useless to devalue himself, sometime it even scares the employer. -kiwi(kiwi); 2002-2-4 (#358327@0)
      • 死要面子活受罪，饿死不打labour工。:) -yangn(Raymond); 2002-2-4 (#358330@0)
      • 对了，我就觉得他这样想降价以求是没有用的，所以我就从NEWSGROUP上摘下来让大家看看。 -hank(hank); 2002-2-4 (#358343@0)
    • 应该先纠正一些语法错误，另外，与其说Strong Experience，不如说xx years experience. -lmx(Mashimaro); 2002-2-4 (#358333@0)
    • 知道为什么中国产品总进dollar店吗? hoho -expertune(专家 GUID); 2002-2-4 (#358334@0)
      • hoho, 专家，你这比喻，实在JP，hoho -lazycow(---<-<<@); 2002-2-4 (#358336@0)
      • 那你觉得应该哪过产品进DOLLAR店？中国产品物美价廉。进DOLLAR店怎么了？ -ghyll(阿土); 2002-2-4 (#358462@0)
        • 进dollar店的东西都不错的, 希望你能看到背后的原因...... -expertune(专家 GUID); 2002-2-4 (#358505@0)
        • 进DOLLAR店的中国产品的“价廉”是廉价劳动力、廉价的材料、低技术含量，有时再加上低精度产生的。 -fionah(Fiona); 2002-2-4 {126} (#358533@0)
          “价廉”是真，但只有在使用者不需要更高要求的时候才勉强算是“物美”。如果中国多生产些不进DOLLAR店的产品，受益的是中国和中国人。
          • 来了将近四个月了，所买的东西几乎是最便宜的，拿回来之后一看，哈哈，全是MADE IN CHINA。所以似乎加拿大便宜的东西都是中国的，不知道这个结论对不对？但是比在中国买，质量肯定要好。 -111111(快乐老家); 2002-2-7 (#361408@0)
    • 我比他还便宜, you can pay me as a half labour 有人要我吗? -hellangel(地狱天使); 2002-2-4 (#358347@0)
    • How about you communication skill? Generally,7 months is not long enough to find a job. You still have the chance. -njcjun(sweetheart); 2002-2-4 (#358348@0)
    • Hi, Jim -tongcd(programmer); 2002-2-4 {1215} (#358391@0)
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛I have same english first name as yours, and had exactly same feeling before. :-)
      Don't ask for mercy here, nobody would give you a job just for mercy. It's useless and harmful for your professional career.
      What people repect is your professional knowledge and working experience and the reputaion you earned. Actually, they don't give a damn how much you need a job. Never forget you are a experienced professional, that's how you impress protential employer and how you get a job. You can work on your job searching skills and professional knowledge, but don't say anything make people feel you are begging. If you had any chance to talk to agent or employer, they may ask your salary expectation. Then give them a reasonable range, if they think they can't pay as much as you want, they WILL ask you to negoitate. But it all depends on wether they want you or not. If they don't think you are qualified, they WON'T even bother to negoitate your salary. OK, they want you,but they can't give what you want, then you are holding the trigger. Leave it or take it, it's upto you. It won't hurt you lower your salary expectaion at that time. But if you do it at very beginning, they will be scared away.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • Hands, good guy gave us good words!!!! -looker(looker); 2002-2-4 (#358394@0)
    • should list more detailed projects done. Otherwise, empolyor can not abstract the technical content from this resume -victoria1(ROYAL+CIBC); 2002-2-4 (#358436@0)
      • 这个是Resume吗？ -fionah(Fiona); 2002-2-4 (#358440@0)
    • 这种自己杀价是破坏行业规矩，对在职的兄弟们有伤害，而且，也没丝毫用处，让雇主怀疑其真正的价值，而且也显的不严肃 -jacky2001(beyond); 2002-2-4 (#358497@0)
      • 人不识货钱识货. -roo(baloon); 2002-2-4 (#358634@0)
    • 这种方法应该慎用. 中国的劳务市场基本上是完全开放的. 而北美有相对来说很严格的劳工条例. 如果此人被正规公司录取, 公司必须付和同样技能的人大致相同的工资, 否则违反了类似于:EQUAL PAY ACT". 即使你想少要, -dropoutinmiami(东北的饺子); 2002-2-5 {43} (#358909@0)
      公司也没法这么做. 如果是CONTRACTOR, 又不同.
      • 只干活，不要钱的Volunteer中国人都有。俺就见过。 只为得点加拿大经验。特平零价格。 -guest011030(b2); 2002-2-5 (#358933@0)
        • VOLUNTEER, INTERN, CONTRACTOR不同. FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE属于我说的现象, 在正规公司里, HR是不太可能会雇佣这样的人, 如果雇佣, 必须付和他技能相当的工资 -dropoutinmiami(东北的饺子); 2002-2-5 (#358941@0)
    • 看来是转载的。这位老兄，我猜不是因为他的技术不好，而是英语有问题。就这段话至少5处有明显错误。英语有时在应聘是可能比技术更重要。别人一看他的简历这么多错误，可能连面试都不会给。当然，可能是他一时激动粗心了。 -chineseman123(问问); 2002-2-5 (#358996@0)
    • 把resume放到newsgroup基本上没用，雇主根本就看不到。Agency也未必能看到。这种类似的东西应该放到Monster或workopolis上。 -lionel(Lionel); 2002-2-7 (#361362@0)
      • 非常有道理 -111111(快乐老家); 2002-2-7 (#361405@0)
    • 哈哈，这个简历肯定是一个笑话而已，大家不必太在意。第一，排比句太多了，第二，还有给人家回扣，第三，只要打工的工资。不是开玩笑又是什么？很有意思的简历，也提醒了我们，一个简历的质量好坏是多么地重要。 -111111(快乐老家); 2002-2-7 (#361413@0)
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