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  • 相约北美 / 移民留学 / 不知学建筑(主要是概念/外观/布局设计而不是局体地如何建造)的在加的就业前景如何？先读硕再找工作又如何？谢谢 -geleipaul(paul); 2000-7-18 (#3486@0)
    • Anyone can give a comments? thanks -geleipaul(paul); 2000-7-20 (#3690@0)
    • I have a friend who has master's degree from US in sth similar to your major. He changed to CS and graduated with master's degree. Now has a job with 5.3K salary. I think it's quite hard for you to find a job with the current major. -ycc(carol); 2000-7-23 (#4002@0)
      • That is very bad news, I presume that your are talking about the market of Canada, if you are right, my friend who is studying master degree in top ten university of china whould be dispointed. -geleipaul(paul); 2000-7-23 (#4006@0)
        • You friend should have a common sense about the two countries.Canada is a developed country while China is a developing country with a largest population.It is easy to figure out. -guest:strange; 2000-7-23 {178} (#4013@0)
          It is easy for a civil enginer to get a well paid job in China.Why so may people want to go abroad?You will lost almost every thing you have gained in China and start a new live.
          • You are asking a good question which can not be answered easily. I think to go abord is to have a look and understand how about others people's living. -geleipaul(paul); 2000-7-23 {274} (#4014@0)
            Further more, why canada university still offer the major in the master level of architecture?
            The question for the new immigrant is:
            Is there any vancancy?

            in addition: My friend does not like to switch to another major and may not pass the admission to CS in Canada.
            • I did not say they do not need civil engineer,did I?But it is very hard for you to find a job in the field even you have a Canadian master degree of civil engineering! -guest:It is fact.; 2000-7-23 (#4025@0)
              • If this is the case, my friend have to be a house wife, very sad as nobody can stay in C as housewife for whole life, then back to ours q/a, the only solution is stay for 5 years to change the passport and return back to PRC as semi-foreigner. -geleipaul(paul); 2000-7-23 (#4026@0)
                • I really can not understand why so many people have such a strong feeling of going abroad.It is not easy to survive in Canda for people can not find a job.May new immigrants live on their saving or labor work. -guest:It is no easy.; 2000-7-24 (#4029@0)
                  • If civil engineer has little chance, base on your observation, what about the Electroincs engineer ? how about the master holder of EE from Canada? -geleipaul(paul); 2000-7-24 (#4059@0)
                    • EE has less chance than CS 'coz most designs have to be done in companies of certain size, while CS can even work at home. -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4073@0)
              • as I know, some people even switch to mechanical eng. from civil eng. -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4038@0)
                • The question is when should start the switching? my friend is going to the second year, to apply for her need at least one year, then she come to the third year, she dodes not want to leave at that time -geleipaul(paul); 2000-7-24 {124} (#4048@0)
                  then after she finish her 3 years studying, ask her to switch and this or that?

                  I really do not know how to deal with it.
                  • ask her friends in college, I believe many hardworking students in good colleges, whose majors are not EE or CS, also know a lot about EE, CE or CS. -guest:; 2000-7-24 {263} (#4074@0)
                    there are some famous example among networms, i.e., some people from other majors got EE scholarship from top school in US, you know why, because they start to learn everything by themselves and help the depts coding all kinds of stuff even since freshman year.
                    • But,things are defference in Canada who only have 30 Universities or less than can offer CS Master degree .Most people have to start from undergraduate level. -guest:even some colleges; 2000-7-24 (#4081@0)
                      • if you want, go apply for graduate schools in the States. Your argument is irrelevant to what people are talking about here. -guest:; 2000-7-24 {218} (#4082@0)
                        I believe if you do have very strong background in certain area, you can get admitted by any
                        top schools in Canada and US, right? But since US has that many schools on different levels, just go ahead and give a try.
                      • 加拿大学校没有供不应求，是申请者的qualifications的问题。如果你认为合格，可以去申请任何美国学校的相关专业的奖学金。没有任何意义的抱怨是浪费时间。 -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4083@0)
                        • 你申请过加拿大的CS MASTER吗？现在各个大学的CS都在扩充满足新移民（不过师资难解决），多数学校的CS学生的2/3都是新移民。没有CS BACHELOR的人基本上连二流大学的CS MASTER都不要你。很多中国的CS 移民进退两难， -guest:上MS BS人家都不要; 2000-7-24 (#4084@0)
                          • you said it: 没有CS BACHELOR的人基本上连二流大学的CS MASTER都不要你 -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4086@0)
                          • one question: can u get in CS graduate study in China's decent schools, without bachelor or associate bachelor in CS, only by your own effort? -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4088@0)
                            • I don't mean night school or continuing study here. -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4091@0)
                          • don't tell me 师资 难解决. if you don't know the competition there, don't say anything. -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4090@0)
                            • It is true.You know little about Canada! -guest:do not guess; 2000-7-24 (#4093@0)
                              • hehe, don't be childish, be a little mature, OK? -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4095@0)
                                • I am CS major in Canda, -guest:OK?; 2000-7-24 (#4097@0)
                                  • that doesn't mean much to me. as I know CS graduate from canadian top school, in his thirties, can be ignorant on some issues too. -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4100@0)
                              • if you mean Queens, isn't its CS or EE always extremely small, though Queens has highest requirement for OAC? -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4096@0)
                          • Are you sure you do know what CS means? -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4092@0)
                          • FYI, the graduation rate in CS major at Ontario universities is around 50%, counting from population in first year. -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4101@0)
                        • 如果去美国加拿大的CITIZEN还要不要？ -guest:美加很多不同; 2000-7-24 (#4085@0)
                          • you want to have everything sounds good to you, right? you can get return permit if u r admitted by US schools, if you don't want to come back and lose the chance to get citizenship, that's your problem. -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4087@0)
                          • the truth is that if you can go to US to work or study on scholarship, why you bother coming to Canada or applying for Canadian schools? -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4089@0)
                            • I lot of US MS holder immigrate to Canada for citizenship! -guest:do not guess; 2000-7-24 (#4094@0)
                              • Oh yeah, but they still work in the States, hehe. And MS doesn't really mean much, because you said there are so many schools---different level, right? -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4098@0)
                              • You miss your point again. What we were talking about is people from China directly. For people who are already in the States, H1 is another issue. -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4099@0)
      • another question: if a double master (one is CS from US) can only own 53K, how about master of EE from Dalhouise? -geleipaul(paul); 2000-7-23 (#4015@0)
        • Sorry, my friend has a master of sth related to architecture in US, not CS. He has CS master's degree here. Double master means nothing, people only count the background and experience in the field related to your current job. -ycc(carol); 2000-7-24 (#4103@0)
          • thank you, it is my fault. -geleipaul(paul); 2000-7-24 (#4112@0)
            • take a look here, you may understand sth:-) http://careerlink.windx.com/content/salary/98survey.htm -guest:; 2000-7-24 (#4115@0)
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