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  • 工作学习 / 事业与工作 / First Job: ways and means -wincity(toad); 2009-8-15 {5523} (#5486156@0)
    • good stuff. -richsettler(PC); 2009-8-15 (#5486903@0)
    • Excellent stuff. 难得的热心肠的toad。新移民必读之一。佩服！顶！ -renshengzheteng(人生贵在折腾); 2009-8-15 (#5486963@0)
    • 不错，这真的是论坛的精华。 -newid22(new); 2009-8-15 (#5487044@0)
      • 受益非浅啊! 多谢你对文章. -ear(耳朵); 2009-8-16 (#5487220@0)
    • +1 -into(into); 2009-8-16 (#5487414@0)
    • 同意. 为了找口饭吃, 是得不择手段. -j30(不做讲师很多年); 2009-8-16 (#5488159@0)
    • I agree with "You never know why they choose one person over someone else." This aligned with my job seeking experience. -iwantcar_majia(iwantcar); 2009-8-16 (#5488476@0)
    • In terms of recruiter, is there an optimal number of them to work with? Or one should work with as many as possible - under the assumption that one can track who is working on what company? -richsettler(PC); 2009-8-17 (#5490274@0)
      • I'd say to work with as many as possible. IMO, they always call you before submitting your resume so there's no issue of keeping track. Pay special attention to the small ones ... -wincity(toad); 2009-8-17 {1526} (#5490824@0)
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛I believe many recruiters are essentially one-man operations. Most of them work for the one and only client they deal with either on the technical side (programming, architect, database, etc) or on the business side (analyst). As a result, they have a great relationship with the client. Once they send you to the client, unless you're really bad, you're hired.

        I believe the girls in the Toronto bank I mentioned fall into this category. Very likely they didn't advertise. And they probably got all the people through referrals.

        The guy I worked for in the states probably never advertised either. He got candidates through referrals. How did he find me? Through another one-man-operation recruiter. This guy is a programmer but he also worked as an agent. He advertised in internet newsgroups (probably tor.jobs) - not sure anyone is still using them now. That's how I found him. Since we had similar background - working in the states but living in Toronto - we had lunch together a couple of times. And he referred me to that guy who eventually hired me.

        IMO, these small recruiters are gold mines. It's not easy to find them, though.

        Seems to me that recruiting is a relationship business. You never know which recruiter is a good friend of which manager. I went through quite a few contracts in the states - each through a different recruiter. Each time I felt the recruiter was very close to the project manager. This is why I believe one should work with as many of them as possible.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • Thanks for the reasoning. One-man recruiter shop is more like the middleman between a job seeker and the employer, this makes sense. -richsettler(PC); 2009-8-18 (#5491732@0)
    • good stuff. -richsettler(PC); -captain_mike(麦克船长); 2009-8-17 (#5490755@0)
    • Good article. “very often jobs don't go to the most qualified person。“ This is definitely true. For the manager, especially those in big companies, it is more important to find a suitable person who can fit in a team well, -baffin(~噗嗤~); 2009-8-17 {77} (#5490822@0)
      than to find a one with more expertise, which can be developed in the future.
    • very good advice from an insider. -york_region(york_region); 2009-8-18 (#5490854@0)
    • good advice -mikesmith(老猫); 2009-8-18 (#5492634@0)
    • 佩服楼上所有读完这个文章的人！我只看了一行，我是真想看，不过英文不好太辛苦。 -corvette(烤饭); 2009-8-18 (#5492712@0)
      • 老猫的英文还是很不错的，读着非常舒服，地道。 -nicetomeetyou(蓦然回首彩虹跨天地); 2009-8-18 (#5492746@0)
        • 多谢夸奖。前一段有人说我中文不好。呵呵。 -mikesmith(老猫); 2009-8-19 (#5494504@0)
          • 那是拐着弯儿夸你. -nicetomeetyou(蓦然回首彩虹跨天地); 2009-8-19 (#5494507@0)
      • 9494 -ze09(土狼屯人); 2009-8-21 (#5498806@0)
      • 9494 -ze09(土狼屯人); 2009-8-21 (#5498811@0)
      • lol i read backwards..it might be readable if lz uses more common language anyway not bad -readingbook(seaseasea); 2009-8-21 (#5498879@0)
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