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  • 枫下家园 / 枫下觅巢 / 加拿大楼市9月停涨 十年大牛市终结 -profz(Profz); 2011-12-1 {740} (#7112510@0)
    周三（11月30日）发布的国家银行房价综合指数（Teranet-National Bank composite home price index）报告显示，经历了连续9个月的直线上涨之后，9月，加拿大主要城市二手房价开始回稳，国家银行房价指数与上月持平。与去年同期相比，则上涨了6.5%。

    由于世界经济风雨飘摇，加上加拿大楼市近年来累积的涨幅已经相当可观，近期预测地产市场将会降温的声音开始增多。英国权威杂志《经济学人》(The Economist)日前发表的文章指出，加拿大是世界上房价被高估25%甚至更高的9个国家之一。此外，加拿大还跻身于类似当年美国楼市“处于泡沫巅峰”的4个国家行列。

    TD银行近期发布的报告也表示，加拿大房价被高估了10%左右。与此同时，加拿大人债务在今年6月就已创下新高，家庭债务总额已达1.5万亿，这个数字相当值得关注。不少经济学家担心，一旦按揭利率上升，很多家庭很快就将陷入捉襟见肘的境地。
    • 这是停涨！没跌呢！ -arfeifei(老顽童); 2011-12-1 (#7112581@0)
      • 客观规律， 有涨亦有跌嘛。。。 -profz(Profz); 2011-12-1 (#7112638@0)
        • 根据偶炒股票的经验，现在还不会跌，一定是等偶下来买单成交之后，才会跌。 -ocean11(海的11); 2011-12-1 (#7112778@0)
          • 热钱或涌向股市或涌向房事 -profz(Profz); 2011-12-1 (#7112899@0)
    • 这帮经济学家的话，反过来听都挺靠铺。过去的十年已经反复证明了这一点。 -snowdown(snowdown); 2011-12-1 (#7112609@0)
    • 不少经济学家担心，一旦按揭利率上升，很多家庭很快就将陷入捉襟见肘的境地。-------------利率上升? 等十年吧。看看日本十年前就是現在的歐美。十年後利率還是沒上升 -chsung(SevenPower); 2011-12-1 (#7112746@0)
      • 这不是好事。日本经济长期低迷。房事也不景气。 -royrose819(rhly); 2011-12-1 (#7112820@0)
      • 如果十年利率不升政府得不断地印钱给银行、保险公司和其它金融机构，也就是说要不断地想办法控制通货膨胀。我的理解是，很有可能，但需要特殊方法，主要看美国，比如打仗，来实现。如果那样，世界会大动荡。 -superintendent(how to enjoy life); 2011-12-1 (#7112824@0)
        • 我觉得钱都进了房市了，所以印了这么多钱，通胀却没起来。 -ocean11(海的11); 2011-12-1 (#7112907@0)
          • 如果这样的话那真完蛋了。 -superintendent(how to enjoy life); 2011-12-1 (#7112943@0)
          • 介个其实有可能⊙﹏⊙b汗 -kidsview(忙); 2011-12-1 (#7112988@0)
    • 中场休息5个月，明年4月份才能看出趋势 -neversaid(重来不说); 2011-12-1 (#7112914@0)
      • 这个季节本来就淡，明年开春就知道深浅了。不过也有可能一直深浅不明\(^o^)/~ -kidsview(忙); 2011-12-1 (#7112955@0)
      • 明年不会涨地. -romacheng(混市魔王); 2011-12-1 (#7115004@0)
        • 取决于经济形势 -profz(Profz); 2011-12-6 (#7123757@0)
    • 总看成涨停。 -michellemf(damao); 2011-12-1 (#7113257@0)
      • 如果明年还会涨----好些朋友今年的首付还不够,不知明年够不. -newbiestarter(初学者); 2011-12-1 (#7115015@0)
      • 不要暴涨， 也不要暴跌， 房事温和， 经济温和， 我们老百姓要的就是这种平淡的日子。 -profz(Profz); 2011-12-2 (#7116278@0)
    • 没有，地税开始涨了。 -bluebird_1(bluebird_1); 2011-12-1 (#7114040@0)
      • 地税会影响房价吗？ -profz(Profz); 2011-12-2 (#7115971@0)
        • 当然了。 -passbyyou(路人); 2011-12-2 (#7115986@0)
        • 这还用说？影响不小，美国很多地方的地税是房价的2%左右。 -eulalie(知难不退); 2011-12-7 (#7126105@0)
    • 看来狼真来了。连北京都跌了：北京楼市最低价再被刷新 不足9000元/平方米(图) -fromchina2008(fromchina2008); 2011-12-4 (#7119181@0)
      • 不少热点区域，如Markham，Mississauga，成交价已经降了不少，至少停涨了（RH的BW区依然上升）。这种调整是长期性的还是季节性的为下一波的上升趟好基础？不要轻易下结论，我等小民都能看清市场了，那所谓的经济专家就没啥玩的了。就像加元汇率，哪个专家预测对了？ -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-4 (#7119187@0)
        • 请举例说明MARKHAM和MISSISSAUGA的情况。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-4 (#7119312@0)
          • 基本上，成交价低于要价1~2万之间。尤其是Markham比较明显，以前基本是在要价附近成交，很少有低于这么多的，现在比较多了。Mississauga的JF区，好卖，但抢OFFER的少，要价比9月前低1~3万，成交还要更低一些 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-4 (#7119377@0)
            • MARKHAM人民赞赏这种只注重表象数据，不预测的精神，特发详细数据支持。数据来源：REALMARKETWATCH当前快照.可IMPORT到EXCEL，做更FURTHER的分析。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-4 {26700} (#7119915@0)
              本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛MLS# LIST$ SOLD$ DISCOUNT SOLD% LIST_DT SOLD_DT TYPE STOREY BR WR AREA
              N2192322 $439,900 $468,000 $28,100 106.39% 08/09/2011 13/09/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 3 Middlefiel
              N2195222 $636,900 $617,000 -$19,900 96.88% 12/09/2011 22/09/2011 Detached Bungaloft 3 4 Berczy
              N2210698 $419,900 $432,500 $12,600 103.00% 02/10/2011 08/10/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2204295 $559,000 $542,000 -$17,000 96.96% 23/09/2011 10/10/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 4 3 Victoria S
              N2205871 $578,000 $565,000 -$13,000 97.75% 27/09/2011 11/10/2011 Det W/Com 2-Storey 4 3 Wismer
              N2199596 $428,000 $420,000 -$8,000 98.13% 17/09/2011 22/10/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2208473 $683,900 $660,000 -$23,900 96.51% 30/09/2011 25/10/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Greensboro
              N2222736 $358,888 $354,000 -$4,888 98.64% 18/10/2011 26/10/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2213194 $468,000 $457,000 -$11,000 97.65% 15/10/2011 26/10/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 3 Village Gr
              N2168995 $979,000 $917,000 -$62,000 93.67% 05/08/2011 26/10/2011 Detached Bungalow 3 2 Thornhill
              N2207365 $399,888 $382,000 -$17,888 95.53% 27/09/2011 27/10/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2189474 $488,000 $479,000 -$9,000 98.16% 06/09/2011 29/10/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2207950 $569,000 $561,000 -$8,000 98.59% 28/09/2011 29/10/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 4 Middlefiel
              N2209981 $628,000 $620,000 -$8,000 98.73% 30/09/2011 30/10/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Markham Vi
              N2203201 $695,000 $665,000 -$30,000 95.68% 22/09/2011 31/10/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Box Grove
              N2157864 $359,000 $340,000 -$19,000 94.71% 20/07/2011 01/11/2011 Detached 1 1/2 Stor 4 1 Rural Mark
              N2217143 $486,000 $471,500 -$14,500 97.02% 15/10/2011 01/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 3 Markham Vi
              N2208817 $379,000 $368,000 -$11,000 97.10% 30/09/2011 02/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 2 Milliken M
              N2220919 $409,000 $418,000 $9,000 102.20% 17/10/2011 02/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2218175 $469,000 $449,000 -$20,000 95.74% 15/10/2011 02/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Bullock
              N2220865 $485,000 $477,500 -$7,500 98.45% 16/10/2011 02/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2226519 $749,900 $778,000 $28,100 103.75% 24/10/2011 02/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Unionville
              N2226734 $900,000 $916,000 $16,000 101.78% 25/10/2011 02/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 5 4 German Mil
              N2195918 $354,900 $350,000 -$4,900 98.62% 13/09/2011 03/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 2 Cornell
              N2218592 $409,900 $403,500 -$6,400 98.44% 15/10/2011 03/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 4 Greensboro
              N2228316 $469,000 $475,000 $6,000 101.28% 27/10/2011 03/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 3 Greensboro
              N2224210 $488,800 $482,000 -$6,800 98.61% 20/10/2011 03/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 4 Cornell
              N2200925 $599,900 $600,000 $100 100.02% 20/09/2011 03/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Middlefiel
              N2191881 $619,900 $610,000 -$9,900 98.40% 08/09/2011 03/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 4 Markville
              N2230770 $649,000 $644,800 -$4,200 99.35% 31/10/2011 03/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Cornell
              N2128428 $749,999 $670,000 -$79,999 89.33% 11/06/2011 03/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Unionville
              N2204735 $1,599,000 $1,550,000 -$49,000 96.94% 23/09/2011 03/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Village Gr
              N2230984 $399,000 $416,800 $17,800 104.46% 01/11/2011 04/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2211450 $445,800 $439,988 -$5,812 98.70% 03/10/2011 04/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Village Gr
              N2207748 $579,000 $570,000 -$9,000 98.45% 28/09/2011 04/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Greensboro
              N2224054 $649,800 $635,000 -$14,800 97.72% 20/10/2011 04/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Raymervill
              N2225443 $699,000 $699,000 $0 100.00% 22/10/2011 04/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Greensboro
              N2218080 $709,000 $690,000 -$19,000 97.32% 15/10/2011 04/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Markville
              N2218722 $729,000 $702,000 -$27,000 96.30% 15/10/2011 04/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Unionville
              N2230816 $549,900 $566,731 $16,831 103.06% 31/10/2011 05/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 4 Aileen-Wil
              N2214082 $550,000 $521,900 -$28,100 94.89% 15/10/2011 05/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 4 Royal Orch
              N2229424 $559,000 $585,000 $26,000 104.65% 28/10/2011 05/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Cornell
              N2212826 $439,000 $429,000 -$10,000 97.72% 15/10/2011 06/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Village Gr
              N2224194 $469,900 $452,800 -$17,100 96.36% 20/10/2011 06/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2223099 $569,000 $566,000 -$3,000 99.47% 19/10/2011 06/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Raymervill
              N2206920 $769,000 $650,000 -$119,000 84.53% 27/09/2011 06/11/2011 Detached 2 1/2 Stor 4 5 Milliken M
              N2232940 $938,000 $952,000 $14,000 101.49% 03/11/2011 06/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Victoria M
              N2233345 $409,800 $408,800 -$1,000 99.76% 03/11/2011 07/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Greensboro
              N2218577 $419,000 $405,888 -$13,112 96.87% 15/10/2011 07/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 2 Milliken M
              N2201611 $629,900 $611,000 -$18,900 97.00% 20/09/2011 07/11/2011 Detached Bungalow 3 2 Grandview
              N2230262 $739,900 $722,000 -$17,900 97.58% 31/10/2011 07/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Markham Vi
              N2235058 $369,000 $369,000 $0 100.00% 07/11/2011 08/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 2 Greensboro
              N2232418 $380,000 $411,000 $31,000 108.16% 02/11/2011 08/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Milliken M
              N2231703 $423,000 $418,000 -$5,000 98.82% 02/11/2011 08/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2216143 $448,000 $439,800 -$8,200 98.17% 15/10/2011 08/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Berczy
              N2217085 $469,000 $463,000 -$6,000 98.72% 15/10/2011 08/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Milliken M
              N2228202 $519,900 $514,000 -$5,900 98.87% 27/10/2011 08/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 4 Berczy
              N2218371 $569,900 $550,000 -$19,900 96.51% 15/10/2011 08/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 4 4 Victoria S
              N2234833 $579,000 $588,000 $9,000 101.55% 07/11/2011 08/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Markham Vi
              N2228999 $689,900 $630,000 -$59,900 91.32% 28/10/2011 08/11/2011 Vacant Lan Other 4 4 Cachet
              N2217835 $739,000 $710,000 -$29,000 96.08% 15/10/2011 08/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 5 Cachet
              N2233711 $777,000 $768,800 -$8,200 98.94% 04/11/2011 08/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Victoria M
              N2213887 $779,900 $755,000 -$24,900 96.81% 15/10/2011 08/11/2011 Detached Backsplit 4 4 Unionville
              N2200275 $828,000 $798,000 -$30,000 96.38% 20/09/2011 08/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Unionville
              N2204336 $409,000 $400,000 -$9,000 97.80% 23/09/2011 09/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 2 Middlefiel
              N2231875 $438,800 $430,000 -$8,800 97.99% 02/11/2011 09/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 2 Milliken M
              N2232358 $439,900 $436,900 -$3,000 99.32% 02/11/2011 09/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2204279 $469,900 $465,000 -$4,900 98.96% 23/09/2011 09/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2226802 $469,900 $460,000 -$9,900 97.89% 25/10/2011 09/11/2011 Link Bungalow 3 2 German Mil
              N2230098 $475,000 $432,500 -$42,500 91.05% 31/10/2011 09/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 3 Raymervill
              N2234319 $499,000 $518,000 $19,000 103.81% 05/11/2011 09/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Cathedralt
              N2227873 $579,900 $560,000 -$19,900 96.57% 26/10/2011 09/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Rouge Fair
              N2235739 $779,000 $770,000 -$9,000 98.84% 09/11/2011 09/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Unionville
              N2228193 $838,800 $806,700 -$32,100 96.17% 27/10/2011 09/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Unionville
              N2211697 $859,000 $838,000 -$21,000 97.56% 03/10/2011 09/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Unionville
              N2203184 $949,000 $930,000 -$19,000 98.00% 22/09/2011 09/11/2011 Detached 3-Storey 4 5 Unionville
              N2233493 $425,000 $420,000 -$5,000 98.82% 04/11/2011 10/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2222452 $459,900 $447,000 -$12,900 97.20% 18/10/2011 10/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 3 Cedarwood
              N2221959 $488,000 $485,000 -$3,000 99.39% 18/10/2011 10/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 4 Greensboro
              N2225430 $547,900 $533,500 -$14,400 97.37% 22/10/2011 10/11/2011 Detached Bungalow-R 3 2 Markham Vi
              N2209241 $689,900 $670,000 -$19,900 97.12% 30/09/2011 10/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Rouge Rive
              N2201693 $769,000 $765,000 -$4,000 99.48% 20/09/2011 10/11/2011 Detached Bungalow-R 3 3 Unionville
              N2205631 $899,900 $886,000 -$13,900 98.46% 26/09/2011 10/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 5 4 Victoria S
              N2220708 $349,999 $346,000 -$3,999 98.86% 15/10/2011 11/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 2 3 Cornell
              N2220639 $629,000 $607,600 -$21,400 96.60% 15/10/2011 11/11/2011 Detached Bungalow-R 3 2 Unionville
              N2218181 $755,000 $738,000 -$17,000 97.75% 15/10/2011 11/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Unionville
              N2198145 $860,000 $840,000 -$20,000 97.67% 15/09/2011 11/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Thornhill
              N2220119 $1,228,000 $1,177,000 -$51,000 95.85% 15/10/2011 11/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 5 5 Cachet
              N2074856 $4,650,000 $4,350,000 -$300,000 93.55% 07/04/2011 11/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 9 Grandview
              N2221562 $409,800 $402,200 -$7,600 98.15% 17/10/2011 12/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 2 Markham Vi
              N2222601 $429,900 $413,988 -$15,912 96.30% 18/10/2011 12/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 4 3 Berczy
              N2238854 $549,990 $578,888 $28,898 105.25% 12/11/2011 12/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 5 Milliken M
              N2217251 $599,000 $592,000 -$7,000 98.83% 15/10/2011 12/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 3 Aileen-Wil
              N2229042 $759,900 $733,000 -$26,900 96.46% 28/10/2011 12/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Berczy
              N2203910 $1,498,000 $1,480,000 -$18,000 98.80% 22/09/2011 12/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 7 Unionville
              N2152825 $1,780,000 $1,670,000 -$110,000 93.82% 13/07/2011 12/11/2011 Detached Bungalow 3 2 Rural Mark
              N2230791 $439,900 $428,000 -$11,900 97.29% 31/10/2011 13/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 3 Milliken M
              N2237281 $1,290,000 $1,150,000 -$140,000 89.15% 11/11/2011 13/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Milliken M
              N2220256 $389,000 $373,500 -$15,500 96.02% 15/10/2011 14/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 2 Milliken M
              N2236517 $419,900 $423,000 $3,100 100.74% 09/11/2011 14/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 4 Greensboro
              N2236314 $429,000 $429,000 $0 100.00% 09/11/2011 14/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Middlefiel
              N2210636 $458,000 $450,800 -$7,200 98.43% 02/10/2011 14/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2237604 $464,900 $464,900 $0 100.00% 11/11/2011 14/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Cachet
              N2217378 $529,999 $525,000 -$4,999 99.06% 15/10/2011 14/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 3 Middlefiel
              N2211690 $549,800 $564,900 $15,100 102.75% 03/10/2011 14/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Victoria M
              N2232706 $549,900 $549,900 $0 100.00% 03/11/2011 14/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Rouge Rive
              N2209792 $589,900 $579,500 -$10,400 98.24% 30/09/2011 14/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 3 Unionville
              N2223475 $599,000 $560,000 -$39,000 93.49% 19/10/2011 14/11/2011 Detached Bungalow 2 2 Victoria S
              N2214740 $619,800 $585,111 -$34,689 94.40% 15/10/2011 14/11/2011 Detached Backsplit 3 2 Royal Orch
              N2198491 $638,800 $620,000 -$18,800 97.06% 15/09/2011 14/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Victoria M
              N2236567 $649,999 $640,000 -$9,999 98.46% 09/11/2011 14/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Markham Vi
              N2240022 $650,000 $650,000 $0 100.00% 15/11/2011 14/11/2011 Detached Sidesplit 3 3 Bayview Fa
              N2216833 $669,000 $625,000 -$44,000 93.42% 15/10/2011 14/11/2011 Vacant Lan 0 0 Box Grove
              N2237783 $679,000 $748,000 $69,000 110.16% 11/11/2011 14/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 5 4 Milliken M
              N2235347 $699,900 $730,000 $30,100 104.30% 07/11/2011 14/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Unionville
              N2237404 $862,000 $891,100 $29,100 103.38% 11/11/2011 14/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Victoria M
              N2234856 $988,000 $1,100,000 $112,000 111.34% 07/11/2011 14/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 5 Thornlea
              N2230945 $1,449,000 $1,395,000 -$54,000 96.27% 01/11/2011 14/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 5 4 Unionville
              N2227842 $389,900 $384,000 -$5,900 98.49% 26/10/2011 15/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2219312 $419,000 $415,000 -$4,000 99.05% 15/10/2011 15/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Milliken M
              N2226600 $439,900 $427,500 -$12,400 97.18% 25/10/2011 15/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 3 4 Old Markha
              N2235522 $504,900 $500,000 -$4,900 99.03% 07/11/2011 15/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 3 Greensboro
              N2228162 $519,900 $512,000 -$7,900 98.48% 26/10/2011 15/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 3 Milliken M
              N2218303 $549,000 $553,000 $4,000 100.73% 15/10/2011 15/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 5 Cornell
              N2227188 $585,000 $560,000 -$25,000 95.73% 25/10/2011 15/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 3 4 Berczy
              N2213666 $618,000 $609,000 -$9,000 98.54% 15/10/2011 15/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 4 Cathedralt
              N2204133 $628,000 $605,000 -$23,000 96.34% 23/09/2011 15/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 3 3 Commerce V
              N2235101 $639,000 $635,000 -$4,000 99.37% 07/11/2011 15/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Markham Vi
              N2236482 $639,900 $675,000 $35,100 105.49% 09/11/2011 15/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 5 Legacy
              N2218912 $665,000 $660,000 -$5,000 99.25% 15/10/2011 15/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Cedarwood
              N2239051 $699,900 $700,000 $100 100.01% 13/11/2011 15/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Box Grove
              N2239033 $779,000 $740,000 -$39,000 94.99% 13/11/2011 15/11/2011 Detached Bungalow 3 2 Thornhill
              N2239996 $837,500 $837,500 $0 100.00% 15/11/2011 15/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 German Mil
              N2223768 $449,000 $443,000 -$6,000 98.66% 20/10/2011 16/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 3 Village Gr
              N2237537 $449,900 $442,500 -$7,400 98.36% 11/11/2011 16/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Box Grove
              N2210226 $459,000 $446,000 -$13,000 97.17% 01/10/2011 16/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Village Gr
              N2237286 $568,800 $593,000 $24,200 104.25% 11/11/2011 16/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Milliken M
              N2223140 $749,900 $733,000 -$16,900 97.75% 19/10/2011 16/11/2011 Detached Other 4 4 Aileen-Wil
              N2237134 $799,900 $866,000 $66,100 108.26% 09/11/2011 16/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Unionville
              N2221222 $849,000 $833,000 -$16,000 98.12% 17/10/2011 16/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Box Grove
              N2238630 $1,929,000 $1,925,000 -$4,000 99.79% 12/11/2011 16/11/2011 Detached Bungalow 4 4 Vinegar Hi
              N2236627 $350,000 $335,000 -$15,000 95.71% 09/11/2011 17/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 2 2 Old Markha
              N2234529 $379,900 $370,600 -$9,300 97.55% 05/11/2011 17/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 2 Cornell
              N2219557 $409,000 $415,000 $6,000 101.47% 15/10/2011 17/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 2 Milliken M
              N2222850 $418,000 $404,000 -$14,000 96.65% 19/10/2011 17/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Greensboro
              N2221798 $429,000 $423,000 -$6,000 98.60% 17/10/2011 17/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Vinegar Hi
              N2210832 $499,000 $483,000 -$16,000 96.79% 03/10/2011 17/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 3 Wismer
              N2234274 $519,900 $508,888 -$11,012 97.88% 04/11/2011 17/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 3 3 Commerce V
              N2235592 $699,000 $700,000 $1,000 100.14% 07/11/2011 17/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 5 Berczy
              N2219844 $708,888 $685,000 -$23,888 96.63% 15/10/2011 17/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Box Grove
              N2212765 $787,000 $768,000 -$19,000 97.59% 14/10/2011 17/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 5 5 Cachet
              N2204978 $950,000 $925,000 -$25,000 97.37% 23/09/2011 17/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Unionville
              N2240661 $1,050,000 $1,105,000 $55,000 105.24% 16/11/2011 17/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Unionville
              N2227544 $1,348,000 $1,296,000 -$52,000 96.14% 26/10/2011 17/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 5 Royal Orch
              N2230243 $399,000 $390,000 -$9,000 97.74% 31/10/2011 18/11/2011 Semi-Detac 3-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2217337 $439,900 $432,500 -$7,400 98.32% 15/10/2011 18/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 2 Raymervill
              N2238254 $453,000 $448,000 -$5,000 98.90% 12/11/2011 18/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Berczy
              N2231206 $454,900 $440,000 -$14,900 96.72% 01/11/2011 18/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 3 4 Middlefiel
              N2220457 $469,000 $463,500 -$5,500 98.83% 15/10/2011 18/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 3 Wismer
              N2236427 $518,000 $495,000 -$23,000 95.56% 09/11/2011 18/11/2011 Other Backsplit 3 3 German Mil
              N2218811 $548,000 $535,000 -$13,000 97.63% 15/10/2011 18/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Greensboro
              N2233046 $579,900 $565,000 -$14,900 97.43% 03/11/2011 18/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 4 Milliken M
              N2232703 $599,000 $598,000 -$1,000 99.83% 03/11/2011 18/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 5 Village Gr
              N2201450 $599,900 $583,000 -$16,900 97.18% 20/09/2011 18/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Greensboro
              N2209090 $649,900 $631,000 -$18,900 97.09% 30/09/2011 18/11/2011 Detached Backsplit 3 3 Bayview Fa
              N2235433 $659,000 $638,000 -$21,000 96.81% 07/11/2011 18/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Wismer
              N2236406 $699,900 $696,000 -$3,900 99.44% 09/11/2011 18/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 5 5 Middlefiel
              N2238343 $398,000 $419,000 $21,000 105.28% 12/11/2011 19/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 2 Milliken M
              N2222191 $428,800 $420,000 -$8,800 97.95% 18/10/2011 19/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 2 3 Wismer
              N2240755 $438,000 $438,000 $0 100.00% 16/11/2011 19/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Village Gr
              N2236328 $459,000 $475,000 $16,000 103.49% 09/11/2011 19/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Village Gr
              N2237181 $479,900 $469,000 -$10,900 97.73% 09/11/2011 19/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Middlefiel
              N2238905 $649,000 $659,000 $10,000 101.54% 12/11/2011 19/11/2011 Detached Backsplit 4 4 Milliken M
              N2239443 $438,000 $436,000 -$2,000 99.54% 14/11/2011 20/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2220132 $499,000 $485,200 -$13,800 97.23% 15/10/2011 20/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Cornell
              N2237536 $574,900 $572,000 -$2,900 99.50% 11/11/2011 20/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Legacy
              N2211558 $619,000 $592,000 -$27,000 95.64% 03/10/2011 20/11/2011 Detached Bungaloft 3 3 Cornell
              N2239654 $619,800 $618,000 -$1,800 99.71% 14/11/2011 20/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Wismer
              N2238882 $715,000 $701,000 -$14,000 98.04% 12/11/2011 20/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Markville
              N2193136 $718,800 $708,000 -$10,800 98.50% 09/09/2011 20/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Milliken M
              N2236744 $479,900 $470,000 -$9,900 97.94% 09/11/2011 21/11/2011 Semi-Detac 3-Storey 3 2 Bayview Fa
              N2239766 $499,000 $580,000 $81,000 116.23% 14/11/2011 21/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Cathedralt
              N2239981 $499,900 $527,000 $27,100 105.42% 15/11/2011 21/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 4 Aileen-Wil
              N2224264 $524,900 $522,000 -$2,900 99.45% 20/10/2011 21/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Cornell
              N2237052 $649,000 $637,000 -$12,000 98.15% 09/11/2011 21/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Markville
              N2208657 $888,880 $888,000 -$880 99.90% 30/09/2011 21/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Victoria S
              N2214167 $459,900 $452,500 -$7,400 98.39% 15/10/2011 22/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Cedarwood
              N2214478 $469,000 $465,000 -$4,000 99.15% 15/10/2011 22/11/2011 Detached Bungalow 3 2 Thornhill
              N2242011 $488,000 $480,000 -$8,000 98.36% 17/11/2011 22/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Berczy
              N2238284 $499,000 $520,000 $21,000 104.21% 12/11/2011 22/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 3 Victoria S
              N2239641 $499,000 $510,000 $11,000 102.20% 14/11/2011 22/11/2011 Detached 3-Storey 4 4 Cornell
              N2243104 $499,900 $495,000 -$4,900 99.02% 21/11/2011 22/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 3 Cedarwood
              N2240743 $549,000 $575,000 $26,000 104.74% 16/11/2011 22/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Cornell
              N2241114 $599,000 $617,000 $18,000 103.01% 16/11/2011 22/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Greensboro
              N2220437 $618,880 $610,000 -$8,880 98.57% 15/10/2011 22/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Victoria M
              N2232172 $689,000 $678,800 -$10,200 98.52% 02/11/2011 22/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Unionville
              N2232315 $699,000 $663,000 -$36,000 94.85% 02/11/2011 22/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Rouge Fair
              N2239616 $738,800 $755,000 $16,200 102.19% 14/11/2011 22/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 3 3 Angus Glen
              N2239061 $358,000 $357,000 -$1,000 99.72% 13/11/2011 23/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 2 Cornell
              N2231259 $429,900 $425,000 -$4,900 98.86% 01/11/2011 23/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 4 Cedarwood
              N2242805 $485,000 $485,000 $0 100.00% 19/11/2011 23/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Greensboro
              N2238698 $539,000 $534,500 -$4,500 99.17% 12/11/2011 23/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 4 Cachet
              N2185659 $545,000 $520,000 -$25,000 95.41% 30/08/2011 23/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 3 Box Grove
              N2216008 $549,900 $535,000 -$14,900 97.29% 15/10/2011 23/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 4 Middlefiel
              N2220700 $578,000 $568,000 -$10,000 98.27% 15/10/2011 23/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 4 Cathedralt
              N2216198 $659,800 $637,000 -$22,800 96.54% 15/10/2011 23/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Markham Vi
              N2227274 $749,000 $732,000 -$17,000 97.73% 25/10/2011 23/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Milliken M
              N2186022 $860,000 $760,000 -$100,000 88.37% 31/08/2011 23/11/2011 Detached Bungalow 3 2 Old Markha
              N2240966 $399,900 $442,000 $42,100 110.53% 16/11/2011 24/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Berczy
              N2229497 $462,000 $452,000 -$10,000 97.84% 28/10/2011 24/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Markville
              N2230326 $499,000 $495,000 -$4,000 99.20% 31/10/2011 24/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Berczy
              N2224336 $499,900 $487,000 -$12,900 97.42% 20/10/2011 24/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Rouge Rive
              N2220298 $549,900 $525,000 -$24,900 95.47% 15/10/2011 24/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 4 Middlefiel
              N2218750 $649,900 $628,000 -$21,900 96.63% 15/10/2011 24/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 5 Wismer
              N2241527 $689,000 $692,000 $3,000 100.44% 17/11/2011 24/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Village Gr
              N2237683 $1,398,000 $1,360,000 -$38,000 97.28% 11/11/2011 24/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Milliken M
              N2239487 $379,000 $367,500 -$11,500 96.97% 14/11/2011 25/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Markham Vi
              N2242313 $399,900 $395,000 -$4,900 98.77% 18/11/2011 25/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2228210 $485,000 $475,000 -$10,000 97.94% 27/10/2011 25/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Cornell
              N2228212 $529,000 $520,000 -$9,000 98.30% 27/10/2011 25/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 4 Middlefiel
              N2193148 $538,000 $519,000 -$19,000 96.47% 09/09/2011 25/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 2 Bullock
              N2185985 $579,000 $556,000 -$23,000 96.03% 31/08/2011 25/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 2 Cathedralt
              N2224907 $588,000 $574,000 -$14,000 97.62% 21/10/2011 25/11/2011 Detached Bungalow 3 2 Markham Vi
              N2218391 $859,900 $820,000 -$39,900 95.36% 15/10/2011 25/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Markville
              N2230835 $439,000 $421,800 -$17,200 96.08% 01/11/2011 26/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 3 3 Cornell
              N2237272 $488,000 $485,000 -$3,000 99.39% 11/11/2011 26/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 3 Greensboro
              N2242204 $499,000 $520,000 $21,000 104.21% 18/11/2011 26/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Cathedralt
              N2230804 $678,800 $669,240 -$9,560 98.59% 31/10/2011 26/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Raymervill
              N2216924 $749,900 $738,000 -$11,900 98.41% 15/10/2011 26/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 4 4 Unionville
              N2166842 $2,350,000 $2,000,000 -$350,000 85.11% 04/08/2011 26/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 5 German Mil
              N2239054 $467,800 $461,000 -$6,800 98.55% 13/11/2011 27/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 3 Greensboro
              N2230870 $469,500 $466,000 -$3,500 99.25% 01/11/2011 27/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 3 Village Gr
              N2244416 $469,900 $465,000 -$4,900 98.96% 23/11/2011 27/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 4 Cornell
              N2242516 $548,800 $518,000 -$30,800 94.39% 18/11/2011 27/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 3 Cathedralt
              N2235467 $658,000 $633,900 -$24,100 96.34% 07/11/2011 27/11/2011 Detached Bungaloft 3 3 Berczy
              N2242285 $699,900 $716,000 $16,100 102.30% 18/11/2011 27/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Berczy
              N2245067 $372,800 $368,000 -$4,800 98.71% 24/11/2011 28/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 2 Cornell
              N2223541 $399,000 $398,000 -$1,000 99.75% 19/10/2011 28/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 3 Markham Vi
              N2236905 $399,900 $389,000 -$10,900 97.27% 09/11/2011 28/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Vinegar Hi
              N2238056 $459,000 $447,500 -$11,500 97.49% 11/11/2011 28/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2245845 $483,900 $476,000 -$7,900 98.37% 26/11/2011 28/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 3 4 Village Gr
              N2237907 $509,000 $485,000 -$24,000 95.28% 11/11/2011 28/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 4 Milliken M
              N2244121 $519,800 $505,000 -$14,800 97.15% 22/11/2011 28/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Village Gr
              N2186085 $539,800 $509,500 -$30,300 94.39% 31/08/2011 28/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 3 Wismer
              N2238286 $549,000 $545,000 -$4,000 99.27% 12/11/2011 28/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Markham Vi
              N2198784 $559,900 $558,000 -$1,900 99.66% 16/09/2011 28/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 3-Storey 4 4 Victoria S
              N2233374 $609,000 $586,000 -$23,000 96.22% 03/11/2011 28/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Raymervill
              N2246406 $749,000 $738,000 -$11,000 98.53% 27/11/2011 28/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Wismer
              N2239845 $1,580,000 $1,570,000 -$10,000 99.37% 14/11/2011 28/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 7 Unionville
              N2225837 $379,900 $373,500 -$6,400 98.32% 24/10/2011 29/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 2 Cornell
              N2244259 $399,000 $431,000 $32,000 108.02% 22/11/2011 29/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Aileen-Wil
              N2237415 $452,900 $441,000 -$11,900 97.37% 11/11/2011 29/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 3 4 Cornell
              N2227453 $485,000 $480,000 -$5,000 98.97% 26/10/2011 29/11/2011 Att/Row/Tw 2-Storey 3 3 Box Grove
              N2244703 $658,000 $640,000 -$18,000 97.26% 23/11/2011 29/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 5 4 Greensboro
              N2247031 $728,000 $728,000 $0 100.00% 28/11/2011 29/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Markville
              N2243157 $818,800 $875,000 $56,200 106.86% 21/11/2011 29/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 5 Victoria M
              N2224463 $849,900 $820,000 -$29,900 96.48% 20/10/2011 29/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Unionville
              N2220376 $429,000 $420,000 -$9,000 97.90% 15/10/2011 30/11/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 3 Cornell
              N2231307 $449,000 $431,000 -$18,000 95.99% 01/11/2011 30/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Milliken M
              N2243714 $539,900 $557,000 $17,100 103.17% 22/11/2011 30/11/2011 Link 2-Storey 4 4 Middlefiel
              N2243761 $635,000 $633,000 -$2,000 99.69% 22/11/2011 30/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Village Gr
              N2245601 $649,000 $698,000 $49,000 107.55% 24/11/2011 30/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Buttonvill
              N2233461 $799,000 $745,000 -$54,000 93.24% 04/11/2011 30/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Markham Vi
              N2158195 $1,699,999 $1,557,000 -$142,999 91.59% 20/07/2011 30/11/2011 Detached 2-Storey 5 6 Milliken M
              N2245681 $398,000 $435,000 $37,000 109.30% 26/11/2011 01/12/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 2 Markville
              N2238069 $519,000 $505,000 -$14,000 97.30% 11/11/2011 01/12/2011 Link 2-Storey 3 3 Milliken M
              N2241237 $599,900 $598,000 -$1,900 99.68% 16/11/2011 01/12/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Wismer
              N2245905 $619,000 $643,000 $24,000 103.88% 26/11/2011 01/12/2011 Semi-Detac 2-Storey 4 3 Cathedralt
              N2231989 $1,650,000 $1,527,000 -$123,000 92.55% 02/11/2011 01/12/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Thornhill
              N2235981 $799,900 $780,000 -$19,900 97.51% 09/11/2011 02/12/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 3 Buttonvill
              N2232365 $899,000 $865,000 -$34,000 96.22% 02/11/2011 02/12/2011 Detached 2-Storey 4 4 Unionville
              N2195307 $989,900 $1,300,000 $310,100 131.33% 12/09/2011 02/12/2011 Detached Bungalow 4 1 Thornhill
              TOTAL $174,061,009 $171,124,222 -$2,936,787 98.31%更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
          • Mississauga, RH 和Markham， Vaughan11月成交量确实都下降了，但是均价都高于10月，热点地区唯一均价下跌的是Oakville。成交价对要价的discount确实提高了，不过也可能是因为卖主本身开价高了。 -ocean11(海的11); 2011-12-4 (#7119524@0)
    • 数据显示安省的失业率在全国名列前茅。Barrie失业率更是达到11%。经济这么糟糕，居民负债率又高，房价不急跌就谢天谢地了。 -apolloe(Tom); 2011-12-4 (#7119382@0)
      • 这不是必然的吧？08年比这更糟糕。现在是全球的流动性过剩，钱总是需要找个地方落脚的 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-4 (#7119468@0)
        • 嘿嘿，忍不住想问一句，“现在全球流动性过剩”这话不知道是哪位专家的手笔啊？ -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-4 (#7119690@0)
          • 哈伯说，现在市场上有的是钱，加拿大不会拿一分钱去“救助”欧洲。金融危机、国债危机不等于没钱。是国家不想（敢？）让老百姓替政府还钱，想学美国找像中国那样的冤大头抹帐，希腊抹了一半了，其它国家也想照样 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-5 (#7121025@0)
            • 原来是“哈专家“，这就是全球流动性过剩的来源？中国如何给美国抹帐了？希腊抹帐又和中国有什么关系？ -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-5 (#7122298@0)
              • 真不懂假不懂？美国两房4000亿你还能拿回来？雷曼兄弟破产谁是最大的凯子？有记忆力的话想想去年的新闻，中国充救世主买了希腊多少国债？至于全球流动性过剩，你去问别人吧，哈伯只是说出了问题的实质而已，世界不是差钱，是有人想赖帐 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-5 (#7122545@0)
                • 是你说的全球流动性过剩，怎么又要问别人。中国买了多少希腊国债我不知道，这部分是否抹去一半？从来没听说过。两房退市中国损失4000亿，我也没听说过。中国持有的好像是债券不是股票，不过俺not sure. 俺不知道的事俺不乱说。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-6 (#7123822@0)
                  • 两房是债券，问题就在于这里，股票吧，让你死个痛快。债券呢，美国人吊着你，你只要一减持，就停止对两房的信贷支持，两房退市，债券立马成垃圾。所以那钱你就别指望了，虽然账面上还在 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-6 (#7123985@0)
                    • 拜托，两房退市很久了。你确定你睡醒了？两房债券有5.2万亿，绝大部分都美国人自己拿着，中国已经减了一千亿了，美国怎么还不赖账啊？ -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7127391@0)
                      • ONLYMISSISSAUGA醒不醒烦不了。哈哈，＂俺不知道的事俺不乱说＂，终于让我找到EVIDENCE了。二房只是从NYSE DELIST了，还是可以交易的。FNM －＞ FNMA， FRE －＞FMCC。我在那两只股票，还有ABK，CIT上可是吃了大亏。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7127640@0)
                        • 请问delist中文什么意思 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128031@0)
                          • 算你狠，DELIST真翻译成退市，我TNND认为是摘牌，可以交易就不算DEAD。好吧，明天重修ABC。你继续告，我继续监督你的表现。， -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128075@0)
                            • 俺是啥时踩了你尾巴？怎么都想不起来你这一号。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128127@0)
                              • 没那东西可踩，你是不是被踩多了？就事论事，难道指出你的错误，表示不同意见都不行啊？ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128171@0)
                                • 你是在挑刺吧，结果还把自己给套进去了，丢人啊。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128200@0)
                                  • 你认为挑刺，丢人不丢人是你的事。你以前预测的顶过没过？丢人不？你说的，理解的都非要是正确的，真把自己当圣人啊？ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128223@0)
                                    • 俺说啥了尽管挑出来，不敢正脸见人的马甲还理直气壮的，而且看起来还不只一件马甲，呵呵。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128243@0)
                                      • 人家不是告诉你了吗？only451的马甲。有些人穿马甲是不得已，玩得过小人，硬不过版猪 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-7 (#7128260@0)
                                        • sorry,我不用帮手！有理说理，省得他左怀疑右滴咕的。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128270@0)
                                        • 你俩不就一条裤子放屁的，还装啥。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128274@0)
                                          • 你嘴真臭，该刷牙！ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128281@0)
                                      • 有本事指出我的马甲嘛（除了ONLY４５１），你算不算诽谤？你不是曾经很活跃吗？权威似地把顶猜了一次又一次，准过吗？房市能预测吗？不负责任地谈买和不买，危害是一样大的。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128263@0)
                                        • 拿出俺原话来。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128280@0)
                                          • 自己说得都记不清楚啦？为什么好一阵子灰头土脸的不敢发言？ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128284@0)
                                            • 拿出俺一次又一次的原话 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128289@0)
                                              • 你有没有猜过？肯定不止一次，有没有在ROLIA被嘲笑过（放心，我当时我是看客，只是觉得你挺可怜的。）？你的原话是语录啊？ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128309@0)
                                                • 笑啥，倒是很多人骂过。拿不出俺话就别JJYY. 俺说过，最乐观情况三年平均5%涨幅，还不够COST. -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128382@0)
                                                  • 好吧，现在几年了，涨幅算多少？要不我俩好好记住，到时候看结果。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128417@0)
                                              • 更搞笑的是，得了便宜还卖乖，买了好象还委屈得不行似得，什么HOUSE活多了，还一本正经地算涨多少才怎么怎么的，说没说过？ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128360@0)
                                                • 实话，算的不对的你尽管说。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128368@0)
                                                  • 条件满足买房自住（投资除外）也有很多优点啊，有的不是可以用钱衡量的。在我的印象里，你买房好象就是受罪的样子。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128402@0)
                                                    • 俺算帐当然算钱，那些虚的各有所好，如何能算。还不让人说了。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128424@0)
                                                      • 你是投资啊？买了就卖啊？说了别人就不能反驳一下啊？ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128447@0)
                                                        • 你尽管说啊，俺不是正回着嘛 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128460@0)
                                                        • 说来说去怎么就不说俺如何算不对， -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128463@0)
                                                          • 买房自住有些优点怎么能通过公式计算出来？死抱着公式不是书呆子啊？世上所有的事都能通过公式计算出来，那不就简单了？ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128482@0)
                                                            • 俺算能算的。你拿不能算的非说俺错了，难道您就是传说中的真理？ -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128497@0)
                                                              • 你那肯定不是真理。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128506@0)
                                                                • 个人见解，欢迎讨论。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128525@0)
                                                          • 所以，只会抱着个公式算来算去，你的顶永远猜不对，对了也是瞎猫碰到个死老鼠。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128498@0)
                                                            • 厉害！总之俺说啥都是错，够霸道！够无赖！够无耻！佩服佩服。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128523@0)
                                                              • 无赖无耻的是你！ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128528@0)
                                                                • 大家有眼自己会看。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128542@0)
                                                                  • 当然同意！ -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-7 (#7128571@0)
                                          • 天花板理论。－ 不评论，大家看。要工作，没时间回帖。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-8 {1435} (#7128826@0)
                                            本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛枫下家园 /枫下觅巢 / 投资房那是考虑美国，加拿大能比么，一个是跌到地板，一个是涨到天花板。 -buying(跌了！); 9.19 12:12 (#6926209@0) more 话题

                                            枫下家园 /枫下觅巢 / 又一个在前两月摸了天花板的。 -buying(跌了！); 8.23 22:49 (#6871309@0) more 话题

                                            枫下家园 /枫下觅巢 / 五月就是天花板了，从此跌到年底。 -buying(涨了？); 7.7 14:14 (#6785195@0) more 话题

                                            枫下家园 /枫下觅巢 / 喊狼来了，喊多了狼总是会来的。虽然不一定会跌那么多，涨上去肯定是没指望了。如果今年春天不能突破去年春天的历史高位，GTA的房价天花板也就在那了，没个三年五年的破不了了。 -buying(买了); 2.3 20:43 (#6490992@0) more 话题

                                            枫下家园 /枫下觅巢 / 这房价顶着天花板，能涨哪去，cost都cover不了，涨了也挣不到钱，不如盼它跌吧，跌狠了才有机会。 -buying(买了); 1.27 09:27 (#6479550@0) more 话题

                                            枫下家园 /枫下觅巢 / 俺坚持跌派立场，房价已经徘徊近一年，利率降无可降，经济回复缓慢，加息周期却被迫开始，到顶了。今年五月高不过去年，天花板就在那了。 -buying(买了); 1.3 18:53 (#6439012@0) more 话题

                                            枫下家园 /枫下觅巢 / 说点靠题的，澳元对美元轻易突破平算还往上走了好大一截，加币扭扭捏捏的往平算靠，每次一碰就调回一大截，平算已是天花板了。一样是石油货币，为啥就怎么不同，加拿大说到底脱不开做美国的附庸， -buying(买了); 2010.11.18 14:46 (144 bytes. #6372122@0) more 话题

                                            枫下家园 /枫下觅巢 / 入冬了，量不行了，接下来就是一路阴跌，运气好的话，看明年5月能不能回到这个位。几年内450k就是多伦多房价的天花板了。 -buying(买了); 2010.11.3 09:51 (#6347567@0) more 话题更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                                            • mark.. -gdgdgd(掐架专用ID); 2011-12-19 (#7156542@0)
                      • 你总算会自己找资料了，有进步。知道什么是左手右手吗？奥黑给银行7千亿抹平坏账，给中国一分钱了吗？说哪儿去了？呵呵，流动性过剩，美国多印多少，你知道？中国多印多少，你又知道？多的这些钱在哪儿呢？ -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-7 (#7128107@0)
                        • 死皮赖脸的，胡说八道还死不认帐，等你先把前面的话说圆了再扯下一个吧。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128116@0)
                          • 对有些人，你想和他说东就得扯西。俗话说的好，不会游泳的司机不是好裁缝。行了，不和你扯了，再扯你该上火了，房价爱跌就跌，爱涨就涨，买不买是你的事，别在这里和我辩流动性了，好好看房吧 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-7 (#7128228@0)
                            • 黔驴计穷，夹起尾巴逃跑了。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128238@0)
                              • 我该说你什么好呢？非要我给你上课是吧？我偏不给你讲！你去随便找个懂世界金融的问问好不好？服了你了，非得跟帖。我这人最爱删自己的帖子了，只要没人跟，过一天就自己删，你老跟在后面，我还删不了，你烦不烦 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-7 (#7128249@0)
                                • 懂不懂俺不管，俺只知道你自己的话都说不圆。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128272@0)
                                  • 知道点到为止吗？我凭什么给你讲那么多？！不要再跟帖，我10分钟就把这一条删掉，呵呵，算你赢，怎样？你还要心平气和买房 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-7 (#7128295@0)
                                    • 胡说八道还死不认帐 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128301@0)
                                      • 哈哈，怎么感觉你像女人呢？好吧，我让你了，流动性不足好吧，美国人民看到这话该笑死了，又可以接着印钱了。 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-7 (#7128333@0)
                                        • 你说中国一减持，两房就要退市，两房债券血本无归。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128376@0)
                                          • 两房是政府支持的企业债券，如果美政府取消信用担保，结果就是两房慢慢失去流动性，导致价格急剧下跌。这就是我说的，中国减持（中国是两房第一大海外投资者），美国必然撤销担保。至于其国内投资者的利益，里面有猫腻，一两句话说不清 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-7 (#7128434@0)
                                            • 好轻巧，一句说不清就完了？现在的人真是厚颜啊。中国已经减一千亿了，美国政府是不是打算等中国减完了再撤保啊？ -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128456@0)
                                              • 算了，你真是女人！找郎咸平给你解释吧 -onlymississauga(落户密市); 2011-12-7 (#7128468@0)
                                                • 说不过就耍赖，不愧是娘们 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-7 (#7128478@0)
                  • 鉴于你过去的一贯表现，我对＂俺不知道的事俺不乱说＂表示严重的不同意。EVEN THOUGH我赞成在论坛内有P就说，有话就放。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-6 (#7124058@0)
                    • 请举例说明。俺很久没来了，你是谁mj？ -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-6 (#7124390@0)
                      • 谁的马甲也不是。依稀记得你曾经说过TORONTO的房价顶是多少多少，绝对过不了什么什么的，因此由感而发。（BTW，上贴只是玩笑，得罪处多包涵）。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-6 (#7124430@0)
                        • 有干劲去搜一下，我一般不说那么绝对的话。猜顶倒是猜过，猜得也不算很离谱。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-6 (#7124525@0)
                          • .没＂白住＂SEARCH功能用得熟。认真一下，离谱不离谱不知道，但肯定是过了你的顶，如果没记错的话，你还说过如果猜错了，如何如何。。。。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-6 (#7124548@0)
                            • 这个必须澄清，没有search 出来俺告你诽谤。俺还说也有涨的可能。 -buying(跌了！); 2011-12-6 (#7124594@0)
                              • 谁怕谁，等你告了再SEARCH，SEARCH后再反告你! -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-6 (#7124613@0)
        • 但是现在想给中国热钱提供落脚地的国家选择也很多的，譬如美国，现在的投资移民就挺宽松的，气候比加拿大好很多，物价也便宜，房价也便宜 -lovelatte(lovelatte爱摩卡); 2011-12-5 (#7120922@0)
          • 美国的投资移民政策不如加拿大宽松。 -ocean11(海的11); 2011-12-5 (#7120970@0)
            • 现在想移民加拿大已经很难了。 -bay.chen(168); 2011-12-5 (#7121455@0)
              • 留学生转移民很容易，毕业后3年内只要一年工作就够格移民，想留的都能留下。 -michellemf(damao); 2011-12-5 (#7122170@0)
                • 国内的有点小钱的中产很难过来啦。 -bay.chen(168); 2011-12-5 (#7122196@0)
                  • 他们现在是"难产"，阵痛一段时间说不定就好了。别忘了还有国二代，港，台二代，印巴二代ETC，那可是象韭菜般一茬一茬的，对房市的影响绝对不可小看。 -only451majia(好漂亮的马甲); 2011-12-5 (#7122704@0)
        • 当时08年底的房事怎样啊？ -profz(Profz); 2011-12-5 (#7121887@0)
    • 从数据、理论、经济形势上看房价是高了，可是顶不住买房的人多，国内亲戚和老朋友、老同学四十岁以上多数都混出个人样了，都在摩拳擦掌，有的在办移民的等待中焦虑，有的攒着钱期待着和在这边留学的孩子学成团聚，加拿大发展好的大城市没几个，不是说多伦多是第二个北京吗？ -chengnuo(橡树的承诺); 2011-12-5 {302} (#7121989@0)
      反正我们技术移民来的也就固定死工资一块，量力而行不大不小找个好区先占一套房儿住着，管他以后是涨是跌，移民安居不就是图个稳定吗，有个舒服的落脚地今后二十年顺利把两个孩子培养成人，老夫老妻的感情和谐，心情愉快，相依为命的就行了，再折腾也就是一个住处，比上不足，比下有余，有能力的换大房，没钱的咱也知足常乐。
      • 说的在理，赞一个 -ocean11(海的11); 2011-12-5 (#7122055@0)
      • 如果有条件儿再给老人买套Condo，再有条件儿就像某些北京的银一样，趁着还便宜，赶紧给孩子再整一套，不住就先租出去。中国银的房事需求就是这样产生笛。虽然人在加拿大，中国心不改。混得人模狗样儿再过来的就更没心改了。买房子买地，抢占资源。。 -westbank(走西口儿); 2011-12-5 (#7122223@0)
        • 这年头，所谓的盛世，啥都得抢购，世界人口70个亿，人多的跟蝗虫似地。等猴年马月和平年代，人心平稳了，房价也就稳了。 -chengnuo(橡树的承诺); 2011-12-5 (#7122314@0)
          • 没错儿，问题也就在于人心永远无法平稳，总有出生牛犊，不撞南墙不回头。你白给她个平稳日子，她也许还要问你有没有搞错。。反过来说也一样，如果逃到加拿大都跑不掉，也许确实得打出来一个‘人心平稳’。别想躲掉，，除非是原本就是loser.. -westbank(走西口儿); 2011-12-5 (#7122638@0)
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