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  • 枫下家园 / 枫下觅巢 / City TV 11月6日新闻: 多伦多公寓成交量不断下跌,大量的新楼盘却不断地在兴建。GTA卖主: “我真的无法预测到事实居然这样糟...” Maria 的一房一厅大多condo已上市三个月了还卖不出去。“这一切都带给我好大压力,我晚上常常因此而睡不好". GTA目前有5万多condo正在建。
    “I honest never saw this coming.. never..because the boom has been here for a while like 4, 5 years.”
    Maria has been trying to sell her 1BR loft for more than 3 months. “It’s very stressful.. sometimes I’m not sleeping well”
    … the condo sales may be dropping but the construction is still going strong esp in the downtown core,
    with over 50k units under construction in GTA.
    • 我看这可能是政府的一种策略。等都建好卖不出去,政府就收过来做廉租屋,给每家穷人发一套。5万套房,可以支援5万个贫困家庭。政府分房子的时代,马上就要来了
      • 说反话?
        • 这是我的理想。政府负责分房,分工作。按需分配
          • 到时候你就该哭了,根本轮不到你了,排队去吧.
            • 看来5万套房不够。还得多建
              • 嗯, 这主意不错, 哪个出钱多建呢?
                • 这等好事,当然是白住的人出钱了
                  • 呵呵, 原来就是说的好听, 一到掏钱的时候就开始忽悠别人的口袋了.
                    • 难道你想免费白住?
                      • 嘿嘿, 是有人免费白忽悠.
      • 离婚了可以分两套吗?
        • 上次看一个中国新闻,90多岁老太也在离婚,就是为了分两套。估计可行
          • 据说现在正以世界上离婚率最高的村庄申请吉尼斯纪录
      • 别只是分房子,连老婆组织上也一起考虑了吧
    • Why not rent it out if the demand is so high?!
      • It was said in the Video, something like: the lesson to be learned is to sell your condo first before you buy your house...也许买了别的房子, 等钱用吧. 不是每个人都可以同时拿到两个房贷的.
    • 哈哈, 这个更逗: "MUST SELL FAST!!! The soon-to-be owner of a fabulous suite in Trump Tower in downtown Toronto urgently needs to sell his 1800 sq ft 2 bedroom corner suite FAST!"
      • 跌了一百万。这个太狠了
      • 典型的击鼓传花游戏。BUILDER创建了游戏中的花,一手传一手...怎么传不下去了? 嗯,鼓声停了。
        • 有些人爱鼓励别人玩这种游戏, 因为自己可以稳赚.
          • 现在麻烦很大,那些人手里有花,有的还不少,真是个花花世界.
      • 这个好像在打官司了
      • Trump Tower developer suing 7 disgruntled investors to close deals they now regret
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1289698--trump-tower-developer-suing-7-disgruntled-investors-to-close-deals-they-now-regret

        Trump Tower developer suing 7 disgruntled investors to close deals they now regret

        Developers of Toronto’s Trump International Hotel & Tower have launched lawsuits against seven investors in an effort to force them to close on deals for condo-hotel suites some claim haven’t turned out to be the Hollywood gold buyers were expecting.

        The legal move by Talon International Inc. comes at the same time that a London, Ont. doctor is seeking $750,000 in damages for “misrepresentation,” unless he can get back deposits on the hotel suite he bought in the ill-fated project back in 2009.

        The court wrangling is just the latest round of problems to curse the celebrity hotel and condo project at Bay and Adelaide Sts.

        Dozens of purchasers of suites in the 65-storey luxury hotel are now trying to get deposits back and renege on final payments averaging over $500,000.

        Other buyers, some too frightened of the legal ramifications to walk away from deals penned up to seven years ago, say they are finding themselves in a crippling Catch-22 — unable to sell the units or secure mortgages on balances due to Talon Nov. 29.

        “One mortgage company asked me, ‘How could I give you a mortgage on a property that is losing money every single day?” said one devastated buyer, a blue-collar worker who borrowed the $175,000 down payment from his immigrant parents and owes $750,000 at month’s end.

        “It’s very scary,” says the GTA resident, one of about a dozen investors who spoke to The Star on condition their names not be used.

        Most were caught up in the get-rich-quick mentality of Toronto’s booming condo market and intended to flip the units or use them to generate retirement income.

        Talon has been facing an escalating buyer revolt since last February as the glitzy Trump Hotel set to open and buyers found out that maintenance fees, property taxes and other incidentals on the project’s 276 hotel-condo units had skyrocketed from Talon’s earlier projections.

        Emergency doctor Ganesh Ram alleges in his lawsuit that his costs jumped 40 per cent, with property taxes alone (the hotel-condos are considered commercial rather than residential units) now at $30,000 a year. While revenues from the hotel were meant to more than offset those kind of costs, buyers say they’ve been told hotel occupancy is running anywhere from 10 to 50 per cent and room rates are averaging about $300 per night instead of the $600 and up Talon had originally touted.

        Based on the startling new numbers, buyers have alerted Talon they plan to rescind their deals, citing the fee hikes as a “material change” under the Condominium Act.

        Talon’s lawsuits, filed in Newmarket’s Ontario Superior Court of Justice in the summer, are seeking a declaration from the court that they aren’t a material change and that deals must stand.

        Talon refused to discuss details of the lawsuits. None of the buyers named in the suits would speak publicly.

        “Purchasers that entered into agreements of purchase and sale with Talon are not amateurs. The purchasers made these commercial investments in the light of day and presumably on the advice of their legal counsel,” Talon told The Star in an email through its public relations firm.

        “We have full confidence in the court’s wisdom to interpret and enforce the terms and conditions of the agreements that were entered into by those few purchasers which have chosen to resile from their binding obligations to Talon.”

        While domestic and international investors have largely fuelled the condo boom since 2007 — buying up units and renting them out — the Talon/Trump project is very different. It has 379 suites, some 118 of them residential condos, the other 261 being hotel-condos that go into a rental pool.

        Owners of those hotel suites pay commercial, rather than residential taxes, “common element” and other fees, including $87 every night there is someone sleeping in their bed. According to financial estimates in online promotional material, graced by The Donald’s smiling face, those costs would be more than offset by Trump Tower’s revenues.

        Toronto lawyer Javad Heydary has been advising eight Korean purchasers and has been contacted by representatives of more than 40 other buyers seeking to rescind offers. He’s had a team of eight lawyers examining the deals.

        What Heydary found came as a shock, especially to some buyers who readily admit they were so blinded by the flash and cash of Donald Trump that they didn’t do proper due diligence: Buyers weren’t purchasing so much a condo as a share in a high-end hotel that, so far at least, is losing money.

        Some buyers are sophisticated investors. But many others are hard-working immigrants who just want their life savings back — 20 per cent deposits now sitting in trust and due to be released to Talon on closing.

        “Everybody on their own or through advisors — financial advisors, real estate brokers or pension administrators — heard about this opportunity and was attracted because of the name Trump,” says Heydary.

        “They were not only buying into what they thought was a good investment, they were buying a piece of Hollywood.”更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • Can't believe why people buy into Donald Trump...
          • "Most were caught up in the get-rich-quick mentality of Toronto’s booming condo market and intended to flip the units or use them to generate retirement income." 想发财想疯了.
        • 太好了,这些是真正的泡沫制造者,他门被套住是GTA的幸事
          • 很多专业炒家的钱都是从银行套出来的, 最后的赔是银行的钱, 银行有CMHC保险, 说到底可能还是纳税人买单.
    • 我没看错吧,卫生间里面放了两个并排的马桶???
      • 两个的话,一个是toilet,另一个bidet
      • 记得在国内的时候有同事嘻皮笑脸的问过,"知道另一个是干什么用的吗?"
        http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=bidet&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1024&bih=440&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=BoHZHYvP4HK1IM:&imgrefurl=http://design-ties.blogspot.com/2009/03/to-bidet-or-not-to-bidet.html&docid=jsJlF9PoRS98EM&imgurl=http://lh4.ggpht.com/_8s1TB229vsg/Sc-r0Az0jMI/AAAAAAAACP0/fvGHisb3jwA/bidet-beer_thumb%25255B5%25255D.jpg&w=504&h=379&ei=uBGoUJLkOufE2gW33IDoBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=623&vpy=77&dur=1115&hovh=195&hovw=259&tx=140&ty=94&sig=107905635067877406665&page=1&tbnh=135&tbnw=177&start=0&ndsp=10&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:144
    • 真的不好卖了. 价量齐跌, 连地产局的数据都跌了.
      • 刚收到开发商的的邀请函。明天请潜在客户看电影007SKYFALL
        • SKYFALL? 多不吉利的名字。。。 开发商应该请人看 Skyrocket 才对。
        • 这样的促销方式是不是很滑稽啊?按照同胞的心理,他们越这样献殷勤,恐怕越不会买了,因为觉得那啥了~~~
    • 有没有跌到两三年前买楼花的价钱?
      • 还没有,我估计不会那么惨
        • 呵呵, 现在的情况是,有的人想原价转楼花, 都没人肯接手了。