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工作学习 / IT杂谈 / How about C/C++ programmar's opportumity of finding a job? -chenzy2000(Cora); 2000-9-10 {317} (#8321@0)
Hi, Jabber
I have read a lot of article you wrote about java. I understand that java programmer can easily find a job in canada. But I am an experienced C/C++ programmer, especially in Windows. Can I have an opportunity of finding a job in Canada. Your answer is important for me. Thank you in advance.

DavidChen.

If you are really good -jabber(jabber); 2000-9-10 {969} (#8332@0)
David, you can find a C/C++ job if you are really good at VC++ or Unix C++. However,
Canadian companies are very picky! If you are a C++ guy, they hope you know some Java because now it is common to develop a project using Java and they may switch to Java solution. On the other hand, if you are a Java guy, they hope you have a strong C++ background. Otherwise, they may not trust your Java skills. In the IT industry, it is full of prejudice and misunderstading. We
developers know what C++ is good for and whatr Java is good for. But Companies, human resourse people, managers usually
screen the candidates according to some keey words. If you are a true expert in C++, I suggest you learn a little bit Java.

I met some poeple from China and they told me Java is useless. This simply means
China's IT falls behind...
Ask you a question: Are you sure your
C++ is good enough? Can you talk like an expert? I am not kidding.

Hope it helps

Thanks. I'm not sure... -chenzy2000(Cora); 2000-9-10 {1393} (#8369@0)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Thanks for your replies. In fact, I wasn't major ing in computer, just like you. I had read your resume in this site. I admire your translating from physics to IT.
Althrough I had used C/C++ language programming in Windows for about 6 years, up to now, I'm not sure I can talk like an expert. But I had really some experiences about developing a lot projects using C/C++. According to various projects, I had used Turbo C 2.0, Borland C++3.1, Visual C1.0-6.0, Delphi 3.0-5.0, C++Builder 3.0-5.0.
Please don't think that I want to play the peacock here. just to show your my real condition.
I'm concerned with Java for several years. But In China, as you had said, many persons were losting interests about Java. They think some projects programming in Java are running slow. So many persons just do some research in Java, not real projects.
Maybe my insights about IT are too low as
I hadn't worked on financial projects. Could you give your opinion about the development of software in IT?
I have read one of your article that told me you are learning C++ seriously. As you had be experienced in Java, is it necessary to learn C++? what did you think of it?
Thanks for your advice. I'm learning Java seriously now.
At last, Could you answer my one question: What's the most popular IDE of Java in Canada? Please give some details about it.
Thank you very much!
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COME IN -jabber(jabber); 2000-9-11 {652} (#8404@0)
I don't doubt you are a true C++ guy. I suggest you expand your skill set...
Knowing more will secure your life in Canada. Web development is a big
direction.

Borland Jbuilder, IBM Visual Age for Java,
Symantec Visual Cafe .... many IDEs.
You can be good at one of them, play with
others for a few days, them put all of them
on your resume. Of course, you need be able to work with JDK directly.

C++ is still important but its market is shrinking. This is a market-oriented society.

Some people likes to come C++ with Java and prove Java is trash. For me, I don't who is fast. I just need a job to make my living.

Thanks. I want to know what platform should I learn Java… -chenzy2000(Cora); 2000-9-11 {629} (#8425@0)
Jabber, Thanks for your advice. As you are an experienced Java guy, I have a lot of dumb questions to ask. My work environment is Windows98/WindowsNT4. How can I build up a software platform for learning Web development using Java. In details, I want to know what software should I install in both sides of Windows98 and WindowsNT4? What is the basic techniques I should master at first?
In fact, I had some experiences about WinSock/TCP/UDP using VC++ and C++Builder, and something about Web database development using Delphi. But I do not have a little knowledge about Java. Could you share some experience with me.
DavidChen

what do you want to do? -jabber(jabber); 2000-9-13 {755} (#8441@0)
At least, your English is not dumb. :-)

If you want to develop web, download
a jakarta-tomcat from www.opache.org
and intall it on your machine. Go to the installation directory and find tomcat_ug.html ---- this is the user guide.
Tomcat is a hot tool.

If your interest is software development,
you just need JDK 1.2.2 or 1.3. After you
use JDk for a while, you may download
a Jbuilder from www.borland.com or
a Visual Age for Java from www.software.ibm.com. They are good IDEs. It is a good idea to first use JDK.

Even you do client-server programming, you can have your Java clients and servers reside at the same machine. However,
if you use Windows 98, you need expand the virtual memery.

hope it helps, Jabber

Thank your replies these days. Maybe someday I'll ask you a lot more about Java. -chenzy2000(Cora); 2000-9-13 (#8518@0)

I am experienced vc++, could you give some idea to find job? I will be landing Toronto soon. thanks. -ranli(lili); 2000-9-11 (#8396@0)

Here are some tips -jabber(jabber); 2000-9-12 {115} (#8443@0)
1) Cook up a good resume
2) Ask yourself 100 questions related to your resume in ENGLISH
3) don't focus on C++