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  • 下一步应该怎么追求啊？ -pingle(i苹果!); 2007-2-8 {289} (#267@41)
    是去比较轻松地争取一下小公司的controller什么的（名字好听，活儿就那些），还是使劲地去争取一下大公司的corporate reporting 或者 sr. analyst，或者大公司的accounting supervisor之类的职位呢？
    虽然都是没什么影子的事情，不管怎么样，都要很努力，但总希望自己有个确定的方向，将来不会后悔现在的选择。
    • senior position for sure. Controller(too much responsibiity), -backtohome(home); 2007-2-8 (#270@41)
    • 看你喜欢什么样的生活了. 想折腾的话自己出来开个accounting firm也是一条路. 要不就是大公司找个舒服的位置. 个人觉得小公司的controller没什么意思 -oe2003(东方快车); 2007-2-8 (#280@41)
    • Ask your heart. :-) -major154(阿苏-人淡如菊); 2007-2-9 (#307@41)
      • 使劲地去争取一下大公司的corporate reporting 或者 sr. analyst. -linpine(linpine); 2007-2-9 (#308@41)
        • usually corporate reporting hires CA, not cga or cma -backtohome(home); 2007-2-9 (#310@41)
          • so使劲地去争取一下 -linpine(linpine); 2007-2-9 (#311@41)
            • You got it! :)) I don't have experience in corporate reporting area but think it might be a good direction. -pingle(i苹果!); 2007-2-9 (#328@41)
          • I don't think so. Experiences and skill set are more important than designations. -6bear6(maple bear); 2007-2-9 (#313@41)
            • For sure. But CA is best even I am not a CA -backtohome(home); 2007-2-9 (#314@41)
              • Usually the manager is CA and the staff is either CGA or CMA. So there are chances there. -linpine(linpine); 2007-2-9 (#316@41)
              • Not always, there are all all kinds of CAs just as there are all kinds of other "A" s. -goingconern(GoingConcern); 2007-11-11 (#6710@41)
        • Objectively assess your communication skills (professional discussion, report wriiting, PPT presentation, talking politically right always) and critical thinking skills (analyticall, think out of box, crisis mgmt) , -goingconern(GoingConcern); 2007-11-11 {133} (#6709@41)
          coaching skills as well as how much you value on your role in the social responsilbility before you move on to the "big and heavy".
          • Nice to see you again. It has bee a long time. How are you? May I ask for more details as to the self -assessment? -600677(CM); 2007-11-12 {928} (#6717@41)
            From my time to time work experience with the management, I can see why you mention all those soft skills. However, my current position doesn't require a high level of these skills. For example, the professional discussion between me and program managers is far different from that between the finance director and the product group managers. I was called to prepare some analysis when there is a "crisis', but assigning task and supervising the progress is not my business. If I do an objective assessment today, I don't meet the standard of the senior position. Then, what shall I do?

            I guess we can all improve ourselves during the work or, let's say, stretch a little bit. On the other hand, some may find the stretch is too big, and is way beyond their comfort zone. The question now becomes how could I know I have the potential to move to the next level?

            Many thanks for sharing your insights.
            Kind regards.
    • 哗，苹果真的好能干呀！都奔controller啦。加油啊。 -rain123(下雨了); 2007-2-9 {209} (#321@41)
      我经验浅，单说说感觉吧。我觉得如果公司不太小，又有发展前途，不如去试试自已扛大 的能力吧。主要还得看你有没有这个“野心”。如果公司发展壮大，你也会越来越好。就算以后要走，我想在小公司做过，再升到大公司也不难吧？
      • My questions might be somewhat misleading. It's just potentials popped up. I switched from small company to big company year and a half ago. But seems the agent still values my hands-on and "knows-all" experience in small business environment. -pingle(i苹果!); 2007-2-9 {103} (#329@41)
        I am a little puzzled about why this kind of small or big company dilemma comes back to me so fast! :S
        • 感觉是：拿定方向，Be patient, never settle for less. 经常浏览中介招工广告，了解会计发展方向，衡量自己情况，确定自己所要。然后就是拼命往那个方向靠，为了把相关资历及技能写入自己SKILL SETS。 -afterthesunset(afterthesunset); 2007-2-11 {267} (#382@41)
          同时等面试机会，一次次下来后，自己也说熟了，会有人turn down你，但总也有人会买你的故事。那时就是你走出自己Small business hands-on only 圈子的时候。还有，如果你足够自信，其他条件允许，那种“差一点，少一点，低一点”的机会就不用要了， 除非那是你向自己目标发展必备的铺垫。
        • Your agent's preliminary conclusion could be a reult of: -goingconern(GoingConcern); 2007-11-11 {540} (#6712@41)
          You techinical talent is overshadowing your other skills that can make him/her picture your career in a big coporation. This is not a blessing. You have not exhibited your big corporate manouvering skills when talking to him/her. This gives her an impression that you are more of a techinical talent. You need to find a chance to talk and discuss to listen effectivbely, form good judgement, talk with firmness but courtesy, best in influencing people in order to let him/her have a chance to assess whether you are also fit to go "big".
      • If you go for a controller position, do talk to the finance team members if possible. The team's level of skills and team work style do make a difference for the future of a controller. -goingconern(GoingConcern); 2007-11-11 {161} (#6711@41)
        The controller's relationship with CFO , VP Finance and/or the Treasurer is also important. You need to talk to them to get a sense before you accept the job.
    • 如果是去太小公司做CONTROLLER,可能因其内控很弱然后又很难成功实施你制定的改进政策,从而觉得内心很失望,想着还是大公司好.我曾有这样的经历,发誓不在去处小公司了. -florist(心随他舞); 2007-2-11 (#393@41)
      • 也就是说公司的管理环境很重要？如果有President的支持，是不是会好很多？大公司也有大公司的麻烦，螺丝钉的感觉比较严重，要升职也不是那么容易，很多时候要看能不能赶上好的机遇。 -pingle(i苹果!); 2007-2-12 (#414@41)
        • 从某种程度上说,相当的小公司老板都过于重视SALES部门,其实我们会计同行OPTIONS.可她还问我该怎么办? -florist(心随他舞); 2007-2-13 {205} (#452@41)
          都知道会计应该在公司中的分量.还有一点就是,小公司招人程序相对简单,有些people skills&technique skills不太好的人被筛掉的可能性也小了点.记得以前有一SALES做一票LOSS$1000多,我提醒她了,而且告诉她在当时的情况下2个
        • You are right - all depends on the management. -tlmf077(Jeff); 2007-10-18 {238} (#5807@41)
          A small / medium size copmany's controller is a very important position, and come together with more responsibility than working in a large company. So the GM should take it more serioiusly to put the right person on the right position.
          • job potential - small company's controller -tlmf077(Jeff); 2007-11-11 {216} (#6699@41)
            If anybody interested in joining a small company (but fast growing with 3 offices in 3 provinces) and would like to work toward the position as the controller/accounting manager, please email to hr@ipe-logistics.com.
      • I agree. It is boring working at big company, but it is frustrated (somtimes) working at small one. -jandec(JanDec); 2007-2-12 (#420@41)
        • you just said! -winewine(酒); 2007-2-12 (#429@41)
      • I agree with you. -linpine(linpine); 2007-2-12 {369} (#425@41)
        Controller is not an easy job, dealing with CFO, CEO and other dept.' leader and also need to managing the staff. In small company, sometimes, the staff in small company tend to have certain attitude and also the leader of other dept may not have university eduation. Excellent people skills is the key to survive. Controller, controller, don't become controll freak.
    • Whoever give you more money! I know controller in some small companies can earn $100k+, no reason go to big company for $70k -guanyunchang(CHITUMA); 2007-10-18 (#5813@41)
    • From a growth perspective, go for big company. -toysrus(没劲); 2007-10-18 (#5814@41)
      • LZ 已经追求成功: 刚生了个胖娃娃 :-) -7y7(醉里吴音); 2007-10-18 (#5815@41)
        • 原来都生了小苹果了! 祝贺祝贺啊! -yang91(erica); 2007-10-18 (#5818@41)
    • I have the same issue. I am the FA in a global company, doing corporate planning and reporting. Now a small company offers me the controller position, 15K more salary, should I go? -sleeping_beauty(田野里的麦苗); 2007-10-19 (#5860@41)
      • 田野里的麦苗, 你去了那家小公司吗?我感觉要看小公司有多小. -mappleleaf(枫叶红); 2007-11-11 {98} (#6716@41)
        如果该公司有五个以上财务人员,就可以考虑去.拿到职称后, 要想职业再有所发展.管理经验是非常重要的一环.
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