When Borland come with OWL and say: let's make windows proramming a c++ way,nothing happen, but when M$ release MFC which is almost the samething as OWL at begining, it get poplular. This will porbably happend again, when Borland put property/event/componet into VCL, and say: let make windows programming a componet way. Not too many followers. Now it's the turn of C#+.NET LIB. I do feel pity on Borland, who always come with great idea, but finally gain nothing.