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收到一个议员最新回复，让我有了一点点信心：

alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra)
Thank you for your email regarding Motion 103. I share your concerns on the content of this motion, however a vote on the motion will not take place for several weeks, during which the motion's wording may be amended. The Conservative Official Opposition agrees that the motion could severely limit free speech.

Should the motion in its present form be brought to a vote, I will be voting against it.

It is the intent of the Conservative Official Opposition to introduce a motion for debate this week which will ask Parliament to condemn discrimination against any religion and not single out one faith as worded in the motion.

I will watch this debate with a great deal of interest and see if the Liberal government will support our motion both in debate and in a standing vote in Parliament the following week.

Thank you for sharing your concerns and I will keep you updated on this situation. Thank you as well for your prayers.
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Last Updated: 2017-2-15
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  • 枫下茶话 / 社会政治 / 关于Motion 103，发信给MP们的后续：收到两封信，一个中立，一个支持M-103。刚写了封信发给所有的MP，做最后努力：Before Voting "Yes" to Motion 103, Think Twice（网友建议得对，不能简单的Copy and Paste，要尽量自己写信以表诚意） -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 {5241} (#10611626@0) +8
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Before Voting "Yes" to Motion 103, Think Twice



    Dear Members of Parliament,

    Thanks for the timely reply from some of you!

    To the MPs that have decided to vote YES to Motion 103, I strongly suggest you to think twice, at least after reading through this letter (excuse me if it is too long, but please read it, because it is important, and it only takes a minute.)

    Please read this (when you have time): The real threat behind M-103 is 'mission creep'
    http://www.torontosun.com/2017/02/14/the-real-threat-behind-m-103-is-mission-creep

    {

    There are fundamental problems with the wording of the motion...the motion singles out Islam for special protection. While purporting to oppose all forms of religious discrimination, the only form specifically mentioned is Islamophobia. And no definition of Islamophobia is given, leaving the door wide open to the broadest possible interpretations.

    Also, beyond merely condemning Islamophobia, Khalid’s motion calls on the federal government to root out Islamophobia where ever it exists within the government. And it calls for the elimination of “systemic” discrimination.

    But what truly has me worried is the way such seemingly innocuous, goody-goody government actions quickly morph into something larger and more ominous. They can expand again and again, rapidly, until they provoke witch hunts with the force of law behind them.
    }


    Lots of people take the recent fatal attack at a Quebec City mosque as a reason to justify the Motion 103, at the expense of free speech. This reminds me of what happened not long ago in history.

    Please read this (when you have time): The Nazi Terror Begins
    https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005686

    {
    On the night of February 27-28, 1933, a mentally disabled Dutch citizen set fire to the German parliament building (the Reichstag). Hitler and his propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, presented the incident as the prelude to an armed Communist uprising and persuaded the aging President Paul von Hindenburg to establish what became a permanent state of emergency.

    This decree, known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, suspended the provisions of the German constitution that protected basic individual rights, including freedom of the press, freedom of speech, and freedom of assembly. The decree also permitted increased state and police intervention into private life, allowing officials to censor mail, listen in on phone conversations, and search private homes without a warrant or need to show reasonable cause. Under the state of emergency established by the decree, the Nazi regime could arrest and detain people without cause and without limits on the length of incarceration...
    }

    As I have said earlier: No matter how lofty and how innocent the motives might be, the infringement of civil liberties and freedoms will render detrimental, if not disastrous consequences in the end.


    I came to Canada as a landed immigrant over a decade ago, and became a Canadian citizen. In my home country, people are doing pretty well economically, but why do I want to call Canada my home? Because I think Canada is a great country, in that the people are enjoying the civil liberties and freedoms that the whole world is looking up to. In my home country, such level of freedom is non-existent: The media are totally controlled by the government propaganda censorship machine; Expression of individual opinions different from that of the authorities are systematically and meticulously suppressed, the government have specialized police forces to monitor the Internet and social media, people will have their doors knocked by police if they show too much disparity, and active dissident are sent to jails... Even though now I am on the other side of the world, here in Canada, still I do not feel safe, and I would be hesitant to comment frankly online on the government back home.

    Besides, how much do you know about the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner, Liu Xiaobo?

    Please read this (when you have time): Wiki intro of Liu Xiaobo
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_Xiaobo

    Liu is a courageous intellectual and scholar, using his pen, fighting for the fundamental human rights and freedoms of the people in China. He was arrested in 2009, neither he nor his family were able to accept the Nobel Peace Prize. And he is still in jail, till this very moment today, on February 15, 2017.


    I think many Canadians take freedom for granted, they do not realize just how precious the freedom that Canadians have today are, and how alert Canadians should be to stand guard for it.

    It has been said that, “The true soldier fights, not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."

    The reason that I am against Motion 103, is not because I hate Islam, it is because I cherish free speech as a fundamental human right and freedom, as it is written in our enshrined Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

    Freedom is priceless, and it is worth every sacrifice to fight for.

    Dear MPs, to guard the freedom of Canadians, you do not have to take up arms, you just need to say NO to Motion 103.

    Once again, thank you for reading!

    A True Canadian更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 试验了一下，用GMAIL可以一次发给所有MP，现附上整个电子邮件地址列表 -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 {9011} (#10611643@0) +2
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    • 收到一个议员最新回复，让我有了一点点信心： -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 {954} (#10611663@0) +4
      Thank you for your email regarding Motion 103. I share your concerns on the content of this motion, however a vote on the motion will not take place for several weeks, during which the motion's wording may be amended. The Conservative Official Opposition agrees that the motion could severely limit free speech.

      Should the motion in its present form be brought to a vote, I will be voting against it.

      It is the intent of the Conservative Official Opposition to introduce a motion for debate this week which will ask Parliament to condemn discrimination against any religion and not single out one faith as worded in the motion.

      I will watch this debate with a great deal of interest and see if the Liberal government will support our motion both in debate and in a standing vote in Parliament the following week.

      Thank you for sharing your concerns and I will keep you updated on this situation. Thank you as well for your prayers.
      • 这个最靠谱。推迟投票，先行辩论，最后通过也得是修改版。所以说庄议员政治手段完全生疏，还想当头？ -feb2(二月二); 2017-2-15 (#10611795@0)
        • 老猫会说这完全符合猫意呀。可是这点希望是要靠大力拉锯才能有的。 -feb2(二月二); 2017-2-15 (#10611805@0)
        • 庄议员的态度，反映了某些华人的态度，没有自己的原则，或者不敢坚持自己的原则，只想作和事佬，怕得罪这个冒犯那个，被动地被绑驾。大是大非面前，要有底线，放弃党争 。 -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 (#10611815@0) +6
          • 这样的人做leader 就太可怕了，灾难 -ltndsy(Joanna); 2017-2-15 (#10611820@0) +5
          • 庄议员好像并不在你所说之列，他的情况和其他华裔议员并不相同。不过，现在这不值得讨论。 -feb2(二月二); 2017-2-15 (#10611838@0)
            • 对不起，如果不适宜，报歉 -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 (#10611843@0)
              • 这有什么抱歉的，政治人物，咋说不行？ -feb2(二月二); 2017-2-15 (#10611852@0)
    • 议会网上Motion 103官方联结：目前已有８位公开表示支持 -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 (#10611671@0) +3
    • 收到又一个议员最新回复，保守党，Way to go~! -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 {2000} (#10611769@0) +10
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Thank you for your recent email on M-103. Right now, this is a motion before the House of Commons to condemn racism and religious discrimination and conduct a study into religious based hate crimes in Canada with specific attention paid to Islamophobia. These types of motions do not change laws if they’re passed; they go to a standing committee for study. The standing committee will send recommendations back to the House of Commons for consideration. Governments accept or ignore those recommendations almost equally. We don’t know yet what direction this Liberal Government will take on this issue. It is very important for all of us to hear the thoughts of Canadians on this topic.

      I and my colleagues believe Canada must stand firmly behind the principles of religious freedom; that is that people be allowed to believe as they choose, to be allowed to change that belief if they choose and that they practice that belief as they choose, without any element of coercion or threat.

      I, along with my Conservative colleagues, also condemn, in the strongest of terms, any hateful acts committed against religious communities, including places of worship. Religious freedom is a cherished right in Canada where Canadians can freely practice their faith without fear of intimidations, coercion or violence.

      Along with religious freedom comes freedom of expression. Canadians value their ability to speak freely and that needs to be protected unless there is an element of physical threat or violence present in the message. We must preserve our ability to question the decisions and words of our leaders – including religious leaders.

      You raise some good points, and I always appreciate your input. As Conservatives we have suggested some amendments to the motion, but thus far our efforts have fallen on deaf ears.

      If the motion comes for its next reading as is, I will be voting against it.

      Thank you very much for contacting me on this very important issue.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 谢谢。幸苦了：） -newrover(漫游); 2017-2-15 (#10611956@0) +2
      • 这议员的措辞真好，值得学习！ -rensheng(rs); 2017-2-15 (#10612324@0)
        • 确实，很中肯，还有这段关于言论自由的尺度：ability to speak freely and that needs to be protected unless there is an element of physical threat or violence present in the message. -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 {111} (#10612359@0) +2
          We must preserve our ability to question the decisions and words of our leaders – including religious leaders.
    • 谢谢你！辛苦了！看来大部分的议员都是清醒的。不通过的几率也应该是很大的。 -xiaoxiaoai(小小艾); 2017-2-15 (#10611819@0) +4
      • 他们会坚持不懈的，一次次，说不定哪一次就通过了 -ltndsy(Joanna); 2017-2-15 (#10611822@0) +2
      • 如一个议员所说，我们的意见对议员们很重要：It is very important for all of us to hear the thoughts of Canadians on this topic. -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 (#10611834@0) +6
        • 议员们没太多时间思考，我们群众可以帮找点弹药反击这种BS动议，这个也算是我们能尽的一点力吧 -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 (#10611854@0) +3
      • 能够争取到修改后通过就是胜利 -feb2(二月二); 2017-2-15 (#10611846@0)
    • 干的漂亮! -followher2(安知鱼); 2017-2-15 (#10611851@0) +3
    • 写得真好！ -newrover(漫游); 2017-2-15 (#10611959@0) +3
    • 还真有两下子！ -laohu667(老虎 667); 2017-2-15 (#10612507@0)
    • 收到庄议员的回复，大意是：要支持该动议，原因是魁省事件需要引起大家对某教的关注；动议单提某个宗教也有先例；同时他支持言论自由，并承诺当总理之后会做工作把法典里限制自由言论的部分删掉（这个似乎比较凌乱）。很失望。 -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 (#10612714@0) +1
      • 庄一元，是谁？口气蛮大，等当了总理再说？ -bricksonly(鑫); 2017-2-15 (#10612715@0)
        • Chong.我明确告诉他，如果一意孤行我肯定不会支持他的，虽然他是保守党。 -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 (#10612717@0) +3
    • 华人中就需要楼主这样的领头人，大赞！ -nocturne(★夜); 2017-2-15 (#10612724@0) +2
      • 不敢，工余闲暇时间做一下吃瓜群众而已 -alaabracadabra(AlaAbracadabra); 2017-2-15 (#10612741@0)
    • 你们的英文真好啊！ -apple_tree(苹果树); 2017-2-16 (#10613367@0)
      • Aha. -ysgm(大叔学唱); 2017-2-20 (#10619327@0)
    • Thanks a lot--i copied edited your letter and sent to all the MPs as well. -souhsnow(万水千山); 2017-2-16 (#10613730@0)

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