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vickey金子的帖子,引发的争论。Investment Banking Myth 1: Who are the investment bankers

首先,vickey金子做到今天这一步,是自己的努力。我虽不认识他,但是,我想说,通过自己的努力,到这一步不容易。我相信他说的是真的。来rolia 恭喜自己一下,未尝不可。也可以给别人一个希望,一个启发。

那,谁是investment banker?
广义上来说,所有的capital markets bankers都叫自己投行家。这包括front office, (corporate finance, M&A, Equity Capital Markets, Debt Capital Markets) or mid office (equity research, bond research, risk management, credit transaction management etc) and back office, (transaction clearing departments, IT, coding, etc)

狭义上来说,只有front office bankers are the true 投行家。像corporate finance, M&A, Equity Capital Markets and Debt Capital Markets bankers are all involved in origination, structuring and syndication of debt and equity deals. These bankers acts as advisors in helping clients raising capitals in the form or equity, debt and loans.

据我所知,中国人大多数在投行的mid and back office. 很少有中国人在front office. (在下不才,是少数的front office中的一员)。

欢迎砖头。
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  • 工作学习 / 事业与工作 / vickey金子的帖子,引发的争论。Investment Banking Myth 1: Who are the investment bankers
    首先,vickey金子做到今天这一步,是自己的努力。我虽不认识他,但是,我想说,通过自己的努力,到这一步不容易。我相信他说的是真的。来rolia 恭喜自己一下,未尝不可。也可以给别人一个希望,一个启发。

    那,谁是investment banker?
    广义上来说,所有的capital markets bankers都叫自己投行家。这包括front office, (corporate finance, M&A, Equity Capital Markets, Debt Capital Markets) or mid office (equity research, bond research, risk management, credit transaction management etc) and back office, (transaction clearing departments, IT, coding, etc)

    狭义上来说,只有front office bankers are the true 投行家。像corporate finance, M&A, Equity Capital Markets and Debt Capital Markets bankers are all involved in origination, structuring and syndication of debt and equity deals. These bankers acts as advisors in helping clients raising capitals in the form or equity, debt and loans.

    据我所知,中国人大多数在投行的mid and back office. 很少有中国人在front office. (在下不才,是少数的front office中的一员)。

    欢迎砖头。
    • hehe, I am only making 70 grand per year. However, I am managing 300 workers. Who is more powerful?
      • 呵呵,当年俺们村长从北京回来也整天这么说。
        • you betcha
    • 我很希望可以在这方面发展,如果不介意的话,可不可以透露一些ib的基本要求,工作应该怎样找? 谢谢
      • 我也有同感, 谢谢
      • 好贴好贴, 请继续. 楼主的帖子我是比较喜欢看的
      • Almost impossible, forget it. That's not IT.
        • why?
        • Please don't jump the gun on drawing your conclusion. Everybody's background is so different.
        • 这个论坛里不是也有一些吗?也不是不可能找到的啊。我不想做i-banker,因为最起码的身体都受不了,但是想在金融的其他方面发展。麻烦楼主指点一下。
          • Depends on what area in finance you are interested in, the skill set required can be totally different.
    • 写得不错,鼓励一下。equity research似乎应该算到front office更合适。
      据说一名bay st 从事quantitative equity reseach的牛人同胞已经年过百万。他算是我一个不太熟的朋友兼同事,我从来没好意思问过他,只是听别人八卦说的。不知可信度如何。

      如果research作出了名气,是要在拉过来的business里头分一份佣金的。当然卖research赚不了什么钱。

      前几天在文学城的职场论坛里,有位在某wall st hedge fund的同胞说他去年的bonus是14million并最后出示了他的PAYSTUB,很多人不相信且群起攻之。我倒觉得不是不可能。

      在加拿大,前几年确实很少新移民可以进入front office,但现在也慢慢地开始增加了。大势所趋嘛。看看wall st. 做banker的中国人职位虽然基本不高,可人数却不少。
      • equity research does have client facing opportunities, however, it is still a supporting role to the traders and sales ppl. Therefore, equity research lands in a grey area.
    • 也只有banker的脸皮才能达到如此地步。没见过自己给自己贴金贴到这份儿上的。
      • Gordon Gecko said" Greed is good", I will say, "Jealousy is bad!"
        • That's why Gordon ended up in jail, all because of his infamous motto.
          • I am wondering where jealousy would lead you to?
      • 这块砖头没什么技术含量. lol