good one, worth holding long term; and short term won't stay below 1.50$ long, will challenge 2.00$ next; see inside the analysis; -samqyang(Kingkong) @枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum

星爷，师太们，刚才查了一下股票http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CMZ，预测一年到10员，yahoo怎么个预测，有些有有些无的。这个股票如何，请分析一下有如此前途吗。可以长期投资吗。谢谢 -redhair(kkk); 2009-9-18 (#105584@43)

good one, worth holding long term; and short term won't stay below 1.50$ long, will challenge 2.00$ next; see inside the analysis; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-19 {559} (#105601@43)
Good side: 1) industry potential excellent; at the moment Natural Gas at 10 year low;
2) historical price wise, good; never down like today (before June, 2008, around 9$)
3) recently volume continues high, and just out of platform ~1 $, great short term potentials;

Bad side: 1) not a very big company, shares 125.57 M so far;
2) has individual risk; meaning though the industry is good, but you may not know how this one goes;

just mt own 2 cents, your money your choice;

This is one of my two unsuccessful trades, holding about one year. -hipacific(crystalblue); 2009-9-19 (#105602@43)

no offense; can you please just hold about another year; most likely, you will be successful then at least may return all you lost here; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-19 {1417} (#105604@43)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1) unfortunately, if you said you holding this CMZ already ~one year; that matches to the peak natural gas price around 19 Jun, 2008 at 13.7 $/ and down to recent low 2.62$/U;
it matches to this CMZ last year's high around same peiod and after that down;
not only due to natural gas down, but too with this global crsis;

2) from historical point of view; this stock at today's (09/18/2009) close ~1.32 $, you don't have too much risk even if you buy it next mondy; you can't say that I bought at historical peak price;
the chance of winning just huge;

3) technical chart analys, it excellent to me, especially in short term; just up left the flat platform that is ~1.00$ for last for month; and only up 30% so far from that platform; in US market, buying a stock on up trend is way safer than guessing the bottom and collect a stock in down trend;

it can go down from ~10 $ to worst 42 cents, that is 20 times; and it only bounced so far 3 times; go up another few times should not considered as crazy;

anyway, a stock at ~1 $, from any point of view, as long as it survives, it will be historical bottom to me;

afterall, you may already lost 90% for last year, why don't hold it use this 10% but may get you a 100% back opportunity;

to me, this stock is buy and hold one; see you a year later;

just my own 2 cents, your money your decision;更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

This one, I am not at loss; but it should be my third round, not holding this long. -hipacific(crystalblue); 2009-9-20 (#105615@43)

sorry, misread your post, thought you already holding it about one year; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-20 (#105637@43)

Part is holding close 1 year; but I played well average down. -hipacific(crystalblue); 2009-9-21 {48} (#105833@43)
By the way, my bcf.to, svy.to, cta.to look good.

it is good. wait two days to enter if u like to buy. YMYD -allstar09(morningstar); 2009-9-19 (#105603@43)
CIBC analysts consensus is 4 (underperform). too much exposure in nature gas in my opinion. -eleanor(Eleanor); 2009-9-20 (#105620@43)

They are totally useless on the price prediction. -hipacific(crystalblue); 2009-9-20 (#105621@43)
Bingo; that exactally the point that we should touch it; if you didn't touch it when its main product which is Natural Gast here at 7 years low; stock price driven by its main business potentials; I will hold some CMZ and see you in a year; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-20 (#105634@43)
personal opinion rule #2 in the market, don't listen to any so called analysts; e.g. from GS, CIBC etc; due to they have interest conflict with us; paid by their boss which is MM who control the market, media and always screw individuals like us; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-20 {1301} (#105638@43)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛sorry my rule #1 is : never toutch H**.TO series ETFs; they go down way fast then they go up, usually excellent for DT and short but not for long term holding;

a concrete sample; if you paid attention last few weeks, Ford (F) got upgraded by some rating companys, and lots of <analysts> from big corporations change it from Hold to Buy, and saying it great, worth holding bla, bla, bla ...

I think it differently; I see a stock first by its industrial potentials; I may miss Ford (F) if it go up 3 times, but I will never even thinking of buying and holding it long term; below is why:

1) US Auto industry is a completely loser in this crsis for whatever reason; Greedy Union, bla, bla, bla ... I don't care, they don't have great products then they don't have hope
2) though GM gone, but nobody said all the market will be left for Ford (F) , they are so many other good competitiers like Honda, Nissian, etc; you have to buy winner in order to win in the stock market

but anyway, those analyst still encourage people to buy and hold it; analyst speaks for the money which their boss (MM) paid to them but not speaks for the truth;

BTW, Stock Ford (F) is going down steadly and firmly right after those analyst give it a buy signal to common people;更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

谢谢大家。我想星期一把hnu.to卖了，在看看这个股票是否停跌就买一些，Kingkong，morningstar谢谢你们。morningstar? wait two days to enter 是指这个股票稳定了吗? -redhair(kkk); 2009-9-20 (#105622@43)

please think 3 times if you like play with HNU.TO; especially if you are not very comfortable on DT or short; we may right eventiually on Natural Gas trend but I am not sure even that whether you can make money on HNU.to if you hold it long term; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-20 {564} (#105639@43)
so many previous posts discussed this HNU.TO; don't want to further analyize it; but tons of people lose tons of money on it; due to this ETF completely not follow the natural gas price it claimed 2x especially on long term;

it's good if you dare and excellent on DT or swing trading, but doomed if long term hold it; worse than buy lottery 649;

just my own 2 cents,

any below gas stocks/ETFs will do way better than HNU.to

1X etfs: gas.to , UNG (low risk)
stocks: DPTR, WRES, KAZ, CMZ (high risk with possible high pay back)
and don't get us wrong; play with CMZ post very high short term risk; it can go up day 1 30% and next day may down 15%, think twice if you have enough nerve on the price flying up and down crazyly; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-20 {638} (#105643@43)
Plus, the company is not the industry major player at all and quit small;
it not fit into my long term investment stock group;

in term of long term investing;
if I want to make myself sleep well each night, I have to find something 1) very low risk of bankrupt 2) should be top 10 major players in its industry

BAC, BA, MFC, MS,
AA
BA

satisfy above 2 points;

if your money is urgently needed (e.g have to pull out in next 6 months due to buying a house or whatever reason) , please think twice when play with CMZ
anyway, your money your call, big possible gain always means big possible loss as well;
如果你觉得自己的水平比NG的庄强一些，做HNU一点问题都没有。否则，最好别碰这个。股市是个人斗人的地方，斗不过为什么还要进来？ -szs11(Hedge); 2009-9-20 (#105651@43)

实 -guyuan(guyuan); 2009-9-21 (#105837@43)

还有Kingkong，我看了你的帖子，你推荐的股票我想买bac,mfc,BA, 作为长期投资投资至少一年，你觉得下个星期入场这三支股票，设定个什么价位合适能。我想设定一个星期任何时候买进就可以 -redhair(kkk); 2009-9-20 {131} (#105624@43)
谢谢你推荐的股票和你对cmz评论，我是第一次炒股票，没有你们在这里推荐股票，分析股票我是心理一点底都没有。技术看不懂，就是凭第一感觉。

don't mention that; logn term wise (at least 1 to 2 years that I call it long term) , BAC, MFC, BA should be fine; see details inside; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-20 {2329} (#105635@43)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛but don't put everything all in financial basket; Real Estate, commodity will shine in next few years; and Natural Gas next year should be great as well;

split your invest not only in different hot sections, but also split them into a few major players in the same section will be a better idea; in that case you can best minimize the individual stock risk;

so far I am holding below ~15 stocks from below list; and the 5 times guys (my #2 list below) are best performers in terms of balance of risk and gain;
they are at 3-5 $, off the risk of the immediate bankrupt risk and has lots room to go up;

some of them short term gamble with bigger risk but pay back may high; and some of them with low risk worth a few years holding; you can see my risk mark below;

long term investor never gamble on a fix timing, you might want at least keep 1/3 cash due to that many people expecting a pull back, it may or may not come soon, but will come finally;
and after that US stock market will go a few years bull; you can buy some now and hold it; then if pull-back happens, wait at least a few months then pick up next entry point;

1) Below may go up to 10 times in next few years (very high risk, please be alert, you are on your own to play with them, may wipe off due to bankcrupt) :
ABK, ETFC, AIG, FRE, FNM, BEE, MPG, DPTR, CMZ, AHR, ABR

2) below may go up to > 5 times in next few years: (high risk but not extermely high risk)
PLD, PEI, DDR, KRG, FR, NCT (group R.E.I.T, US Real Estate Investment Trust)
C
NG, HL (Gold, mining)
NCS (building material)
YRCW, PRGN, DRYS (shipping service, e.g truck, ship etc)
LCC(AirLine)
BZH, HOV(real estate)
PMI, MBI, RF (Finance)

3) below may go up to > 3 times in next few years (middle low risk):
AA, CENX, X (group commodity)
PHM, LEN, KBH, DHI
BAC, ING

4) below may go up to > 2 times (very low risk)
BA, MFC, MS, WFC, AXP, yahoo,
or any one in index of S&P, or Dow 30 index

please make mind on which onee you want to go, want quick money and can tolerate high risk then go those high risk ones, want slow money buy safty first then go low risk ones;
your money your decision;
this and next year will be the easist year in your life to find a stock that can grow 10 times in 3 years;更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

KingKong, I like your notes. Any comments on TSO, VLO for long term holding? Seems their potential are much better than pure oil company, like SU, XOM?? Thanks!! -jiangnandaxia(super!); 2009-9-20 (#105647@43)

I have similar questions. For long term holding, are ETF CLO.TO or XGD.TO better than oil company stock? Thank you very much. -informix(); 2009-9-21 (#105655@43)

thanks; in 1.22 CMZ using my short term gamble fund; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-21 (#105675@43)

nice wash (Xi3Pan2) today from what I can see, should up sharply soon; YMYD (Your Money Your Decision); thanks -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-21 (#105676@43)

good one, worth holding long term; and short term won't stay below 1.50$ long, will challenge 2.00$ next; see inside the analysis;

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