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Hi, 瓦盆洗手888, don't you think now play with HND.to is like 6 months ago when crude oil at 40$/barell playing HOD.to; I mean if big picture wise we against the trend , we may doomed to lose;

samqyang(Kingkong)

Imaging, if I do long last year when Oil at ~150 and do short this year when Oil at 35$;

now, Natural GAS at almost 7 years low, the possibiltiy of doing short to win at this point;
just can't compare to the possibility of doing long to win at this moment;

last 15 months already proved that each time you do long on Natural Gas you will eventiually lose money; and from now on, most likely within next 9 to 12 months, each time you do short on Natural Gas, you may lose money;

if we hold UNG, GAS.TO last 2 weeks, already 20% proved; regardless the index down or up, I still think NG will up steadly (though a short term pull back may happen) ;

even do HNU.TO is safer than do HND.TO; I mean big picture possibility wise (taken into account Natural Gas at almost 7 years low ) ;

just my own 2 cents, YMYD;

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Last Updated: 2009-9-25

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NND, NG实在是难操作, HND一天好好的, 转眼就被5.05的止单给踢出来了. 谁有好办法交流一下啊. -ccloafer(瓦盆洗手888); 2009-9-25 (#106824@43)

老哥好贪，4%/天还不够？ -interview(intervieweree); 2009-9-25 (#106826@43)

我要是知道最多只有4%那我肯定拿了. 书上教育我们要让赢单跑, 又教育我们不能把赢单做成输单, 所以我很科学地下了一个止单, 给剥客2分自己赢1分:( -ccloafer(瓦盆洗手888); 2009-9-25 (#106867@43)

你不拿到下周看看? -chu.ge(在别人贪婪时恐惧); 2009-9-25 (#106829@43)
你想做啥？ -rwwr(人无完人); 2009-9-25 (#106831@43)

大哥终于出现了，有啥指示？ -ggtt(阳光灿烂的日子); 2009-9-25 (#106838@43)
！ -u7d(u7d); 2009-9-25 (#106841@43)
完人大狭,能做多吗今天, 今天这个不上不下,别扭四了? -chu.ge(在别人贪婪时恐惧); 2009-9-25 (#106843@43)

今天还剩10几分钟，别问了吧 -ignoreme(别当真); 2009-9-25 (#106845@43)

我在想下周涨, 今天正好在supoort ,急死我了 -chu.ge(在别人贪婪时恐惧); 2009-9-25 (#106847@43)

完人是做空的, 你问他可不可以做多? 他屁股后面就是熊. 哈哈. -ican(apple); 2009-9-25 (#106848@43)

是吗? 呵呵. 不管了, 买了crbc&etfc不行就搁着了happy weekend -chu.ge(在别人贪婪时恐惧); 2009-9-25 (#106859@43)
俺的理论是墙头草，干吗只空啊，呵呵 -rwwr(人无完人); 2009-9-26 (#107070@43)

很难说清楚, 好几个想法. 根据今天的开盘是打算在两三天内做SWING的, 两点看还没有什么动静随便设了个止单想等收盘前再处理, 没想到喝了口水就给我踢出来了. -ccloafer(瓦盆洗手888); 2009-9-25 (#106844@43)

看盘要用心，和水有关的都不行。不能喝水，因为不能到厕所放水的 -ignoreme(别当真); 2009-9-25 (#106846@43)

我都是去厕所里下单, 真的. 怪不得越做越臭. 真TNND的无奈, 每次到周末都碰点烦心的事. -ccloafer(瓦盆洗手888); 2009-9-25 (#106850@43)

先把你名字改了。不能水！改成“上茅房掷地有声”，如何？ -ignoreme(别当真); 2009-9-25 (#106852@43)

虽然对DROP描述的很形象, 还是不能用. -ccloafer(瓦盆洗手888); 2009-9-25 (#106863@43)

放水不需要考虑吧，很少有人能一边放水，一边下单。 -szs11(Hedge); 2009-9-25 (#106864@43)

女的就可以 -ignoreme(别当真); 2009-9-25 (#106868@43)

专家啊。 -szs11(Hedge); 2009-9-25 (#106869@43)
这样说男的也可以，一样的姿势就行了，还不会水花四溅啊，呵呵 -jaguar0754(jaguar); 2009-9-25 (#106890@43)

绝不是吹牛, 这是我常干的事情, 即使不想这么做如果突然进来人了也只有这么做, 有时候需要重新登陆的话还要用另一只手摸出钱包输验证码. -ccloafer(瓦盆洗手888); 2009-9-25 (#106871@43)

当真同时进行？ -gszy(灌水888); 2009-9-25 (#106875@43)

费话, 这种场合, 没必要也不能serially. -ccloafer(瓦盆洗手888); 2009-9-25 (#106879@43)

这个习惯不好。万一放水中，突见天然气拉了一根九十度的直线下跌，会影响性功能的。 -szs11(Hedge); 2009-9-25 (#106900@43)

让我想起形容人比较倔的一句话... 背着手撒尿－－不服(扶) -toml(nono); 2009-9-25 (#106910@43)

完了, 估计是做反了！熊来了?:( -chu.ge(在别人贪婪时恐惧); 2009-9-25 (#106873@43)

我是4.91被踢出来，也不知道要不要再进去。 -dnext(next); 2009-9-25 (#106849@43)

什么时候? 我4.96又进去了, 也是4.91的止损, 还没有踢到我, 一定是你替我挡了一脚. -ccloafer(瓦盆洗手888); 2009-9-25 (#106853@43)

:) 中午，　算了，下周再做。　还好损失不多 -dnext(next); 2009-9-25 (#106857@43)

謝謝上面名位,我己好久沒有這么笑過了.謝謝了 -guyuan(guyuan); 2009-9-25 (#106904@43)

一起笑 -apple2004(apple); 2009-9-25 (#106965@43)
haha *_^ -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-25 (#106977@43)

Hi, 瓦盆洗手888, don't you think now play with HND.to is like 6 months ago when crude oil at 40$/barell playing HOD.to; I mean if big picture wise we against the trend , we may doomed to lose; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-25 {851} (#106961@43)
Imaging, if I do long last year when Oil at ~150 and do short this year when Oil at 35$;

now, Natural GAS at almost 7 years low, the possibiltiy of doing short to win at this point;
just can't compare to the possibility of doing long to win at this moment;

last 15 months already proved that each time you do long on Natural Gas you will eventiually lose money; and from now on, most likely within next 9 to 12 months, each time you do short on Natural Gas, you may lose money;

if we hold UNG, GAS.TO last 2 weeks, already 20% proved; regardless the index down or up, I still think NG will up steadly (though a short term pull back may happen) ;

even do HNU.TO is safer than do HND.TO; I mean big picture possibility wise (taken into account Natural Gas at almost 7 years low ) ;

just my own 2 cents, YMYD;

你说得很可能是对的. 我是按我自己的周期, 该干什么干什么, 不对了认输就是, 但是得保持一致性, 否则我也玩不到今天. 我没有太多的分析, 投入资金不多, 能下单就高兴, 属于半瞎做. 至于风险, 我做得是短线, 脆了就割:) 等有机会了我仔细把过去的操作和心理过程这里 -ccloafer(瓦盆洗手888); 2009-9-26 {168} (#107046@43)
post一下, 我觉得分析/技术虽然重要, 更重要的是自己对自己的了解程度, 明白自己在什么情况下会怎么反应怎么思考, 否则再好的计划也被做得面目全非. 当然, 这不是我的经验, 是教训.

couldn't agree more; in order to make money in stock market, we have to find our own used way; -samqyang(Kingkong); 2009-9-26 (#107047@43)

Hi, 瓦盆洗手888, don't you think now play with HND.to is like 6 months ago when crude oil at 40$/barell playing HOD.to; I mean if big picture wise we against the trend , we may doomed to lose;

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