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What is a Ponzi scheme?

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that involves promising or paying abnormally high returns ("profits") to investors out of the money paid in by subsequent investors, rather than from net revenues generated by any real business. It is named after Charles Ponzi. A Ponzi scheme has similarities with a pyramid scheme though the two types of fraud are different.

A pyramid scheme is a form of fraud similar in some ways to a Ponzi scheme, relying as it does on a disbelief in financial reality, including the hope of an extremely high rate of return. However, several characteristics distinguish pyramid schemes from Ponzi schemes:
In a Ponzi scheme, the schemer acts as a “hub” for the victims, interacting with all of them directly. In a pyramid scheme, those who recruit additional participants benefit directly (in fact, failure to recruit typically means no investment return).
A Ponzi scheme claims to rely on some esoteric investment approach, insider connections, etc., and often attracts well-to-do investors; pyramid schemes explicitly claim that new money will be the source of payout for the initial investments.
A pyramid scheme is bound to collapse a lot faster, simply because of the demand for exponential increases in participants to sustain it. By contrast, Ponzi schemes can survive simply by getting most participants to "reinvest" their money, with a relatively small number of new participants.

Ponzi scheme 可能类似于中国的非法集资,用新引进的集资款,偿付前面投资人的利息。
pyramid scheme 类似于国内的传销。组织结构类似于金字塔。顶部的人无偿占有低层人的利益分红。

Note: Charles Ponzi was arrested by police in 1920.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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    • What is a Ponzi scheme?
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that involves promising or paying abnormally high returns ("profits") to investors out of the money paid in by subsequent investors, rather than from net revenues generated by any real business. It is named after Charles Ponzi. A Ponzi scheme has similarities with a pyramid scheme though the two types of fraud are different.

      A pyramid scheme is a form of fraud similar in some ways to a Ponzi scheme, relying as it does on a disbelief in financial reality, including the hope of an extremely high rate of return. However, several characteristics distinguish pyramid schemes from Ponzi schemes:
      In a Ponzi scheme, the schemer acts as a “hub” for the victims, interacting with all of them directly. In a pyramid scheme, those who recruit additional participants benefit directly (in fact, failure to recruit typically means no investment return).
      A Ponzi scheme claims to rely on some esoteric investment approach, insider connections, etc., and often attracts well-to-do investors; pyramid schemes explicitly claim that new money will be the source of payout for the initial investments.
      A pyramid scheme is bound to collapse a lot faster, simply because of the demand for exponential increases in participants to sustain it. By contrast, Ponzi schemes can survive simply by getting most participants to "reinvest" their money, with a relatively small number of new participants.

      Ponzi scheme 可能类似于中国的非法集资,用新引进的集资款,偿付前面投资人的利息。
      pyramid scheme 类似于国内的传销。组织结构类似于金字塔。顶部的人无偿占有低层人的利益分红。

      Note: Charles Ponzi was arrested by police in 1920.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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        • 关键是据说亏损之大有500亿美元啊。可以救活3大车场了。明天早盘,大盘开盘跌掉300点估计很有可能。这次做多的MM,没有上百亿的资金,估计是顶不住PANIC SELL了。股市太虚弱了。车场区区140亿,跟500亿,1:3啊。
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        • QQQQ/SPY/DIA等ETF盘后分别跌了-1.51%/2.59%/1.58%
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        • 够本了。玩了一辈子了。70了,人生都享受过了。什么顶级美女,上等玩物都玩了遍。以后还是自己看好自己的钱吧。谁都别信。If you do not take care of your money, somebody else will 'do'.
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      • 再下去broker都不敢相信了。
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        • 你肯定有空仓,而且仓位不小,HOHO。
          • Only small potion. I can not foresee what is going to happen either. I just follow my rule, slowly bet on the market direction.
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