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枫下沙龙 / 谈天说地 / 德州人民又迎来天价电费。美国多地高温突破历史记录,菲尼克斯47℃,拉斯维加斯45℃,更有地方到达51℃. 由于用电紧张,得州电价飙升至2000美元/兆瓦时。
-34weston(Aaron);
2021-6-20
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前几天有新闻说中国围剿新疆内蒙的比特币挖矿企业,一部分企业转移到美国德州,我就纳闷德州的电够不够。
-haploidus(今剩叹);
2021-6-20
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现在得纳闷挖矿的能不能回本
-big-foot-is-a-joke(big-foot-is-a-joke);
2021-6-20
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干嘛不去冰岛,电费便宜气候凉爽。
-curve(curve);
2021-6-20
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德州人民去上访了没有?躺平了没有?天天重复新闻联播最后五分钟累不累。
-winstons(逗逗兔毛加斯瑞毛);
2021-6-20
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前段时间冻得下雪,现在热得着火,德州真是冰火两重天。
-bottom(核桃夹子);
2021-6-20
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小CASE, 德州人有钱
-keysi(K.S);
2021-6-20
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兆瓦时和千瓦时是什么关系?
-zx1123(123);
2021-6-20
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1MWh=1000kWh
-guestagain(guest again);
2021-6-20
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9.4 cent per kwh, right now. Houston, Texas.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2021-6-20
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许多地方都装了太阳能啊
-yuhangyuan(Astranaut);
2021-6-20
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感谢老大辟谣。楼主经常在此造谣惑众。
-iamflying(叶和花);
2021-6-20
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I think the OP just copied the information from a wrong place.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2021-6-20
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No. You guys are talking about different things. You are quoting a "fixed-rate" plan and OP was posting a whole sale rate. For customers that are NOT on a "fixed-rate" plan,their cost will skyrocket as the spike in wholesale rate will pass thru to end customers.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2021-6-20
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Link please.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2021-6-20
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12.9 cents per kwh, variable rate.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2021-6-20
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Variable rate you are only quoting a point-in-time where the rates change all the time. Look at it at the time of the spike. People in Texas during the winter storm were getting bills over 10K a month.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2021-6-20
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Isn't it true that right now is the high price time, according to the original post? At such a high time the price is 12.9 cents per kilowatt hour. By the way I don't read New York Times, neither do I have an account to read it.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2021-6-20
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I don't know the wholesale price TODAY! Maybe today the wholesale price comes down,
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2021-6-20
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So your Reuter link does prove that the OP was misinformation.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2021-6-20
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why? look at the link posted below by iamflying. The price spiked up 30 times from 20 to 600 in June 15. Your post of quoting a single price for variable rate plan is MORE misleading.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2021-6-20
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各个时段的批发价在这里
-iamflying(叶和花);
2021-6-20
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所以德州新的legislation要求居民用户不可以on index
-aalca(aal);
2021-6-20
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今天开始会降点温吧
-tyra(笨Tyra);
2021-6-20
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这种讨论还是要给出英文报道的出处,路透社: In Texas, real-time ERCOT prices soared to over $2,000 per megawatt hour at several pricing hubs, due to surging demand.
-keysi(K.S);
2021-6-20
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最近几天的分时段价格都可以查到,电费真的很便宜。
-iamflying(叶和花);
2021-6-20
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我们是讨论楼主的话题
-keysi(K.S);
2021-6-20
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This shows that it's important to get a fixed rate.
Don't know how long the $2000 rate lasted. A minute? An hour?
The highest rate in jeffrey815's link is only $400 on Tuesday. And that's the "highest".
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2021-6-20
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15号出现了超过500元的时候,也就15分钟。价格偏高存在了几个小时。说明智能分时用电可能很重要。
-iamflying(叶和花);
2021-6-20
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It doesn't matter whether it last a min or an hour. The point is it did surge to that level. If someone says the price of gas surge to 2 dollar a litre, it doesn't matter it is for a day or a month. That statement is a FACT and ACCURATE.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2021-6-20
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"由于用电紧张,得州电价飙升至2000美元/兆瓦时"。这段话并没有加上时间限定,所以可以认为是描述发帖当前的价格。显然这是错误的。
-iamflying(叶和花);
2021-6-20
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不觉得这有啥问题。如果有人说汽油价格飙升到2元一litre,大家要付高油价。我觉得这statement没有问题。你可以说不严谨,但并不是错的。就连路透社不也这样说嘛?"real-time ERCOT prices soared to over $2,000 per megawatt hour"
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2021-6-20
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有问题,因为外面汽油价格不是2元/L。时态错了,这个论述就是错的。用一般时态,就是表述目前电价持续2000美元/兆瓦。
-iamflying(叶和花);
2021-6-20
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以点带面就是这个意思。只看最高值,不看平均值。马云是中国首富,说明其他中国人的财富也和他的差不多。
-zx1123(123);
2021-6-20
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还有一个更有趣的报道 Texas homes heat up as power companies alter smart thermostats
-keysi(K.S);
2021-6-20
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关键不是价格,是冬天大停电后做了哪些改善?一个电网冷的时候不行,热也不行,到底什么时候行?
-bluesky2011(君子于役);
2021-6-20
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不行的时候肯定是在停电检修。国内不都这么解释的嘛。
-zx1123(123);
2021-6-20
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国内对停电时间有硬指标的,比如三级负荷(农村居民用电)去年是13.72小时/户,德州光冬天就远不止这个数了
-bluesky2011(君子于役);
2021-6-20
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