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True, every class has kids who are slow at keeping up with their peers, we will just need to give them more time to adapt instead of kicking them out of the class…

littlesweetbean(Café)
(#1658@4096)
Last Updated: 2015-9-21
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  • "Niqab ban at citizenship ceremonies unlawful, as Ottawa loses appeal" -littlesweetbean(Café); 2015-9-16 {246} (#1633@4096)
    • IMHO, the power of religion should be limited to spiritual domain, not interfering with the life in civil world. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2015-9-16 (#1636@4096)
      • They’ve argued that they are not interfering other people by not showing their faces, but many Canadians do feel offended. It’s a tough call… -littlesweetbean(Café); 2015-9-16 (#1637@4096)
        • I'm wondering if they don't show the faces, how could the judge know that they are the authentic individuals to take vows? -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2015-9-17 (#1639@4096)
          • Dug a little further, -littlesweetbean(Café); 2015-9-17 {967} (#1641@4096)

            it seems that, in this particular court case, the woman has complied with all the other requirements of the citizenship process (including removing her niqab to an official, so that her identity could be verified), the trigger point was at the final stage of the citizenship process - public oath-taking ceremony, she was required to remove her veil, so that the official could virtually see her mouth to confirm that she's indeed reciting the oath.

             According to the judge, this requirement is "superfluous". So this is all about the mouth not the face, an interesting case, isn't it? :)

             If you have some free time to kill, you can read the full story here: Baloney Meter: Is niqab ban needed to prove citizenship applicant's ID?

            • Although she may win this case in the court, she already lost in the society. Insisting on wearing face cover simply shows how unwilling they are to join the big family of Canada. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2015-9-20 (#1652@4096)
              • IMO, this has more to do with their culture than the individual though, making changes to your own “culture” is always tricky and a very difficult thing to do. Hopefully, her granddaughter wouldn’t have to wear that thing anymore… -littlesweetbean(Café); 2015-9-20 (#1655@4096) +1
                • Agree. On the other hand, people of certain cultures are more adaptable. Back to 150 years ago, long pigtail, wrapping feet of women, kneeling to people of higher rank, all these were part of Chinese culture. -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2015-9-21 (#1657@4096)
                  • True, every class has kids who are slow at keeping up with their peers, we will just need to give them more time to adapt instead of kicking them out of the class… -littlesweetbean(Café); 2015-9-21 (#1658@4096) +1
                    • What if they refuse to make progress? :) -sailor(Ocean & Mountain); 2015-9-22 (#1660@4096)
                      • If you look on the bright side, in general, nobody wants to be isolated from the society, they will have to adapt eventually, it might not happen to this woman herself, but I believe it will, to her next generations. -littlesweetbean(Café); 2015-9-22 (#1662@4096) +1

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