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枫下茶话 / 社会政治 / 看一下the National Post这篇,很有深度,“Until it was found to be a hoax, Toronto girl's hijab made news, not the attack on her”。
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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精句一针见血,“There used to be a news maxim that “Jews are news,” which made sense when anti-Semitism was the greater cultural concern. Now, it is the hijab that is guaranteed clickbait.”
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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这句能让三级政府下不来台。“The instant panic, which drew impassioned responses from leaders at three levels of government, also showed that, no matter whether they are welcomed or vilified, Muslims are used as a test for a nation’s authenticity.”
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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穆斯林也是被利用的一个群体,咋看?no matter whether they are welcomed or vilified, Muslims are used as a test for a nation’s authenticity.
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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"But for politicians, when there are warning signs, like a young person involved, an educational context, a lack of corroboration, “it never hurts to wait a day.”"
-barbarian(粗人);
2018-1-16
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先说说你咋看吧?我觉得眼前一亮。lol
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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我觉着这句也是我想说的。。。
-barbarian(粗人);
2018-1-16
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显摆你自己比Karen Mock还厉害吗?lol 她是不是说到点子上了?你真得直接回答一下。
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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为啥会发生假仇恨案?“Hate crime hoaxes are pretty rare. However,when they do happen,they often involve school or college-aged folks,” said Levin. The motivation, he said, is often “some kind of reputational enhancement,”or a distraction or diversion from something negative in their own life,or a ploy for sympathy.“
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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女孩为啥撒谎? Perhaps she was being harassed or bullied and no one was listening to her.
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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Perhaps she herself wanted to get rid of her hijab.
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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Perhaps this was meant as a call for help.
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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最好笑是这句,校长看了肯定一周吃不下饭。Could this be crying wolf to the principal, and being unable to walk it back once the news cameras arrived in her school?
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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女孩为什么撒谎不重要,撒谎的孩子多了去了。关键是政府怎么处置这件事的,很可怕。比如两个孩子打架,一个冤枉了另一个,家长却不批评这个冤枉他人的小孩,对这个孩子说,你没受伤就好了。这样做的后果是什么?如果社会是有这样的家长来主持公道,你觉得对社会是什么影响?
-newvest1(newvest);
2018-1-16
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你觉得这文章咋样?有深度吗?是不是比我们这的讨论一针见血?
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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兜兜转转,又回到hate crime上了。哈哈。写文章的人也是害怕政治不正确的。现在这事到底是对警察,对大众说谎,还是其中有想象的hate crime?没有媒体人敢说?
-newvest1(newvest);
2018-1-16
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我觉得作者和怕政治不正确的截然不同,是批评怕政治不正确的。她是说,政客根本没真关心穆斯林,而是利用穆斯林来表现自己有多高尚,多nice,忽略了问题的实质。
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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没看,这篇文章不对,hijab is surprised to be the click bait or news, it as a sign represents a culture, tradition or religion. Cutting it is always not as simple as an attack on a girl.
-fangxu(fangfang);
2018-1-16
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你可能看不懂,别难为你自己了,谢谢。:)
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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这个你多虑了,我根本都没打开,只是看了你主贴,给你牛的
-fangxu(fangfang);
2018-1-16
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记住说这些话的人吧。Karen Mock, an educational psychologist and human rights consultant“Today we’re experiencing the very same thing with Muslims,” said Karen Mock, an educational psychologist and human rights consultant who chaired the committee that developed the Ontario government’s hate crime strategy. “These things do get blown out of proportion when it’s a marginalized or racialized group.”
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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天啊,你看来真是呼啦啦,这一大长串儿。但真心佩服,you look totally different, except 这一大长串儿^
-fangxu(fangfang);
2018-1-16
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oh 对了, 还有平时话也是有些多,控制不住那一种,其他都很好^
-fangxu(fangfang);
2018-1-16
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你在天方夜谭吗?无关此讨论的内容,请你另开贴,好吗?谢谢。
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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好,这句是画外感言与中场休息,感慨一小下,马上停^
-fangxu(fangfang);
2018-1-16
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为避免你把我们的正经讨论弄得八卦无聊,请原谅我拉黑你吧,谢谢。
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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怎么可能,呼啦啦是保守党员。。。
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2018-1-16
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不了解,请另开贴。这次回来没有一点小酸儿,真没想到是她,这点狂赞,不过上面又开始酸了,遗憾,可能是一有不同声音就酸。我从前由于all-and-all话多有些没趣所以几乎没读与留意,没想到是她。
-fangxu(fangfang);
2018-1-16
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错,是影子。
-abc2011(Always Be Creating);
2018-1-16
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现在的全又全比当时的呼啦啦成熟多了也可爱多了。
-light_and_shadow(lost to time);
2018-1-16
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有些话痨没趣。之前呼啦啦旅游介绍与文化介绍,文笔与广度还是可圈可点的
-fangxu(fangfang);
2018-1-16
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犯错的是一个孩子,记住这点很重要。“The bottom line here is that this story involves a child who made a mistake,” said Ihsaan Gardee, executive director of the National Council of Canadian Muslims.“We doubt she would have foreseen the full consequences of her actions.”
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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连老猫那样的大人有时都很难foreseen,:)何况一个孩子?“We doubt she would have foreseen the full consequences of her actions.”
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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小土豆心里明亮,教主的嘱托牢记在心
-firetrain(火车头);
2018-1-16
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另类教嚎毛又竖起来了
-northyork888(Northyork101);
2018-1-16
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没看看这个,揭穿特权阶级,更深度
-firetrain(火车头);
2018-1-16
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你没明白文章作者的本意,她的意思是,穆斯林就像当年的犹太人一样被利用着。
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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没看出这个意思,test for a nation’s authenticity. 就是说政客的弦被穆斯林绷紧着。
-light_and_shadow(lost to time);
2018-1-16
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这很正常,因为仇穆成为加拿大多元价值观最大威胁
-northyork888(Northyork101);
2018-1-16
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这也是作者潜台词里反对的。就是说过犹不及。我们中国人做事讲求春风化雨,谆谆诱导,也是这个意思。要做好一件事,社会上的反弹力量是不能压得太紧的。
-light_and_shadow(lost to time);
2018-1-16
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这个度见人见智,我觉得政客在这方面的反应符合大部分人的需求,没有破绽,特别是三级政府必须及时表态,
-northyork888(Northyork101);
2018-1-16
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所以原作者对这种现象提出来,但也只敢稍微感慨,不敢批评。
-light_and_shadow(lost to time);
2018-1-16
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我觉得加拿大和美国最大区别是加拿大有个魁北克,英裔和法裔并不团结,所以政客要想在台上不可能依靠单一势力,往往少数人可能决定了国会里的政治平衡,政客这时候必须争取少数族的票,
-northyork888(Northyork101);
2018-1-16
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就算是被利用, 也是周瑜打黄盖。 被利用的也只是这个家庭
-sunrain88(Jessie);
2018-1-16
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这种胡说八道仇穆的话就别拿到这丢人现眼了
-northyork888(Northyork101);
2018-1-16
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客观的讲,仇穆不是道德问题,是法律问题。然而,不仇穆对我们华人是利多弊少。
-light_and_shadow(lost to time);
2018-1-16
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仇穆对华人没有任何好处,因为不论是政治,经济还是文化华人从来不是穆斯林的主要竞争者,
-northyork888(Northyork101);
2018-1-16
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不管同不同意,这才是理性讨论的文章,而不是一听到ASIAN,毫毛就树起来,一幅傻鸟被吓一跳的样
-northyork888(Northyork101);
2018-1-16
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至少是我目前所见最理性的一篇。你说穆斯林有没有意识到自己和原住民,以前的犹太人一样,都是政客作秀的工具和使唤?
-allandall(-);
2018-1-16
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政治就看谁秀的好,才能有选票,对于在台上的传统政客,不出错就是最大的好,你不能指望政客能解决这个问题
-northyork888(Northyork101);
2018-1-16
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文章里真没看出这一点。无论是不是虚情假意,但没说这是政客主动,也可能是被动的,政客也是被舆论支配的是身不由己的。
-light_and_shadow(lost to time);
2018-1-16
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他们要是不第一时间站出来,后面估计要花一年时间来洗地
-northyork888(Northyork101);
2018-1-16
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是母亲同意接受采访的, 她就要负责。 A Toronto District School Board spokesperson put the media in touch with the child’s mother, Saima Samad, who agreed to do interviews.
-sunrain88(Jessie);
2018-1-16
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这位教育心理学家, 有没有考虑过亚裔在事件中被边缘化。Karen Mock,an educational psychologist and human rights consultant who chaired the committee that developed the Ontario government’s hate crime strategy. “These things do get blown out of proportion when it’s a marginalized or racialized group.”
-sunrain88(Jessie);
2018-1-16
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