Topic: Do we IT guys have a future (3) – in search of the next curve. @枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum

工作学习 / 事业工作 / Do we IT guys have a future (3) – in search of the next curve. -mikesmith(老猫); 2010-3-9 {7517} (#5932837@0) +4

很多公司都趋向: 硬件: COLOCATION -->DEDICATED; 软件: CLOUD-CLOUD---->SaaS -whereismyid(到处找ID); 2010-3-9 (#5932904@0)
Do IT guys have a future? Yes. Do we local IT guys have a future? NO. IT技术不管往哪个方向发展，都会模块化，分散处理和集中整合，换句话说，更容易被outsourcing。 IT技术一浪接一浪，随着年龄的增大，总有一浪会把你打趴下。。。 -nodream(～～～); 2010-3-9 (#5933050@0)

比较高深了。希望他们别再弄出个people virtualization来，不然真是要死翘翘了。 -coolmao(酷猫*Zensunni); 2010-3-9 (#5933330@0)

Cloud computing can bring more benefits to small and medium business, e.g. security, business continuity / disaster recovery planning and desktop optimization. -hkchan(0); 2010-3-10 (#5934957@0)

but this trend is not so good for small IT consulting firms, hard to compete at that level. -mikesmith(老猫); 2010-3-10 (#5934980@0)

Yesterday, I just told a SMB owner who has 35 employee to get rid of their IT supporting firm and jumped to cloud. I would follow up with them next week. I asked them 1 stupid question if they have a fire in their factory, -hkchan(0); 2010-3-10 {300} (#5934984@0)
what would be their business continuity / disaster recovery plan? Did their IT supporting firm suggest any? I told them clound / VoIP should be the key components in their BCP / DRP. If I have the chance to go back, I should invite you to go with me to give them a briefing on the benefis of VoIP.

I THink big companies like banks will have concerns on security and bandwidth. private clouding is option. but then it's similar to virtulaztion. -saper((㊣金旺旺㊣)); 2010-3-10 (#5934994@0)

virtualization is about logical division on hardware. cloud is about service delivery model and end user experience. they are closely related. cloud will mostly like use virtualization and other techniques. -mikesmith(老猫); 2010-3-10 (#5935010@0)

cloud, saas, virtualization are very strongly bonded. -hkchan(0); 2010-3-10 (#5935025@0)

Most big companies outsource their payroll, i.e. very sensitive data or even customer services (even more sensitive data). There are always pros and cons of outsourcing, using Toyota as an example; if they did not outsource, -hkchan(0); 2010-3-10 {123} (#5935032@0)
they may not have the problem they have now. However, without outsourcing, they might not have the chance to grow so fast.

Only Saint Meow, a perceptive and insightful person with profound vision can consistently think ahead of us all. -shaoxing(绍兴师爷); 3-18 (#16008252@0)

可以有效避免中年危机，精神内耗，否则很容易迷失方向，迷失自我。目标要明确，美元硬通货最好，这里的房产也行，其他都是扯淡。 -ff2021(码农闰土); 3-18 (#16008330@0) +1

Cloud 免费的话可以用用存下文件，不免费的话就算了。 -letempsdescerises(再回首云遮断归途); 3-18 (#16008427@0)
以前在美国的IBM 干过，这是我的观察。IBM 给客户开的价很高，但管理层拿了大头，下面干活的pay 的不高。后果就是，IBM 有些人很牛，有很好的idea，但implementation 的一塌糊涂。干IT的，有点本事都不会去IBM，而 IBM 里头有点本事的早就跑了。IBM 根本代表不了 IT -goodlord(goodlord); 3-18 (#16008436@0) +1

IBM最近十几年已经走下坡路了，以前不是IT老大也差不太多，现在是啥都不沾边，几个大厂远远的把IBM抛在后头了，IBM的工资和其它几个大厂比差太远了，IBM和老猫一样开始显现出老态龙钟了 -palwang2000(重现江湖); 3-18 (#16008642@0) +1

估計老貓也已經band10了吧，我離職幾年前老闆説給加薪在move 到band10.. 覺得ibm從根子裏爛掉了。。太多的overhead, 機構臃腫，庸才太多。 -oldimmigrant(老移民); 3-19 (#16010567@0)

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